Really, we are open to people who are eccentric, which is why we decided to visit Blackwood Canyon. We enjoy 'another take' on the norm, but Mike is way beyond that.. The wines we tasted, before fleeing, tasted of vinegar as others have said. The place is filthy & we were met by a growling dog. He was beyond wasted when we got there, I will spare you the details. Don't waste yor time. I believe there is a hint of genius there, but it's obscured by addiction. Very sad...he needs some serious help.