Really enjoyed this course last year, played it several times. Starter was so busy talking we could hardly get his attention. Then he wanted us to go off early as some members wanted to play. No score card in the cart, nothing on the second hole. Play was really slow, and the manager came by. They had a group of 6 playing slow two up. We let him know. A few min later the starter came buy and we told him the same, said that wasn't possible - accused us and the group in front we were lying. Wanted us to pair up with the group in front. They were playing from the whites, us from the tips. We did, that didn't speed anything up as we constantly had to wait for the guys mowing and watering the greens. Mowing the greens at 2:00pm? Meanwhile the members behind us were hitting into us like we were slowing them down. Round took 5 hours, most of that waiting. Plenty of courses around that want paying customers, not this one.