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Reviewed July 24, 2011

Hotel Holiday Point & Spa Kumkoy Side 14-22 June

Holiday Booked with Co-operative Travel Services

Flight Thomson from Gatwick, typical seats with knees to chin tried their Diabetic meal quite acceptable for a 4 hour flight.

Antalya Airport seems much larger and more civilised than 6 years ago. But major problem with the Co-op transfer system we were vouchered with Blue Taxis located outside terminal at stand 19, stand 19 closed. By luck and asking everyone in sight we were put in touch with Blue Taxis and “mini-bussed” to hotel with one other family. Later hotel staff told us how several British guests did not have our luck and paid very high taxi fares.

We arrived at Hotel Point and Spa around midnight. We were greeted by Man Friday, Receptionist / Bell Boy / Concierge smartly attired in a Red Turkish Uniform. His English was as befits a Turkish gentleman who has wintered in the cold and rain of Birmingham with his English wife was first class. One joyous language problem he thought inhabitants of Birmingham were called Yummies, I tried to explain these are sweet pastries sold by Greg’s the bakers and Brummies live in Birmingham. The bureaucracy of registration was swiftly completed Passports photocopied and our bags transported to Room 324.

A little cultural challenge the lift registered 1 for floor 3. Our room was adequate with balcony facing the main road and local disco. The bathroom was “tres petite” and at circa 00.30 had its own version of Manavgat Falls the loo was continuously flushing. Our escort suggested we reported this fault after breakfast. Having lived with a water meter at home for 14+ years I found the water waste frustrating as well as loud even with lid down and bathroom door shut. This problem persisted all holiday despite many visits from “the technician.” The loo noise plus sounds from local disco at 04.00 hours was frustrating some nights. It was very hot and air-conditioning only worked when room key was in the holder. Attempts to use credit cards all failed. Our man stood on balcony and pointed out a supermarket across the road to buy Effes at a fair price.

Room 324 had a fridge useful to keep water cold. There was a T.V never switched it on. We come to Turkey for holidays and culture not to watch TV. 2 Large single beds, slept well so must be o.k. Bathroom had hot water at all hours and a fantastic “power shower.” It must have been one of the most powerful we have ever enjoyed. Overall room was fine, better to have a continuously flushing loo than one that did not flush. Some day’s repairs worked for a short time, on one occasion it was fine lunch time but flushing when we returned at bed time.

Breakfast was all one could wish for in a Moslem country. Most days there was fresh juiced orange as a pay extra, do have change the waiters don’t. A good range of cereals, except the Sugar Puffs seemed to have sugar welded together. Beautiful fresh crusty bread carve yourself. Regret the toaster was so eco friendly the bread stayed white or original brown. There were jams, honey and butter at breakfast. Various junior chefs cooked omelettes to order, with cheese, shredded chicken, tomatoes, onions, peppers, corn and no doubt other fillings I have forgotten. Pancakes were also cooked most mornings, fine hot with local honey but a bit like concrete if they had waited long on hot plate. Many other items like baked beans and scrambled egg on hot plate. Copious supplies of fresh fruit including an occasional bowl of cherries.

Spoke to reception most days about our loo, no language problems. They very kindly phoned the Coop Rep Mr Urg from Yesil Dalyan. Mr U had plenty of English friends, a regular visitor to The North of England come winter. He was great for us. Thursday he took us to Argos Jewel Art Antalya. Where a former Birmingham apprenticed jeweller arranged for some repairs including my nearly 40 year old wedding ring, re-sized and polished, a necklace clasp replaced and many items cleaned. Mrs Templar was at last able to buy the “rubies” she has desired for so long.

We were then taken to a real Turkish Cafe that specialised in cooking spicy meat balls with fresh salad, boiled potatoes and baked onions. Washed down with a healthy yogurt drink, supplemented by a Turkish shredded coconut pastry we were also offered coffee. Many families and local police patrol car visited must be good.

Lunches at Holiday Point were fine eating by the pool outside or restaurant inside. Soup, vast array of fresh salads including marble size tomatoes, fresh while you wait cooking fish and very tasty breadcrumb chicken breast, other meats and chips. Typically Turkish array of sweet puddings covered many display units. But for diabetic Dariusdave there was fresh fruit, full flavour ripe oranges, dates and seemingly countless other treats. No problem with 5 a day here could be 10+.

Dinner it helped to arrive early or late. Food similar to lunch time plus some days cooking al fresco around the pool. Choice was always too great for us we never struggled to find food we liked. We do not travel to Turkey (10+ trips now) either wanting or expecting a Blackpool Menu {but we do enjoy Illuminations and local F & C).0

There were also priceless treats to eat around the quiet pool. An indefatigable lady cooked traditional Turkish flat breads. You could choose your filling and my favourite was simple feta cheese. She started around 11 most mornings, then around 4 in the afternoon proceeded to cook Turkish donuts, these could be coated in sugar (chocolate coloured) or honey or eaten plain. Maybe frowned upon by the Health Police back home but absolutely yummy washed down with a machine Mocha coffee.

Drinks, Turkey may be 99% Moslem but its national drink is Raki and it brews Effes. There was a small bar by the quiet pool serve yourself juice or bar staff for beer and coke. It also had a serve yourself coffee machine that produced an acceptable Mocha. Evenings spent at hotel we would enjoy a G & T in the reception bar before and after dinner served in sensible sizes glasses, see photos. There were also d-i-y coffee machine, a Turkish tea urn and juice machine.

Hotel had two pools one with slides and entertainment staff. The other outside the restaurant I call the quiet pool. Never had a problem finding a brace of sun loungers with shade, we could enjoy a restful read and dip in a pool that was kept clean. Entertainment staff let us decide volume for the 10 o’ clock ”Hi-di-hi wake up call.”

The Beach
We have loved some Turkish beaches, regret this was not one of them. This hotel beach was very popular with German guests under 50. I say this as we enjoyed the company of some Germans our own age around the quiet pool. The beach had regimented rows of sun loungers in straight lines with 2 inch (50 Euro mm) gaps, placed under a scaffold shade structure. There was a beach cafe / bar but we did not test its facilities. We did have a session with the hotel photographer taking sunset photos on Sunday evening at the beach that was still quite busy at 8 p.m. local time.

The Spa
First morning we booked and visited. First class facility, best way to start a Turkish Holiday is “the full works.” Yes we enjoyed the cleansing experience of giant foam with rigorous rub from the “camel skin” (now a man made white glove). Rec’d some robust massage on the hot marble slab, followed by the challenging anointment of our bodies with freezing cold water. Then a quick rub followed by herbal tea or water resting in the solarium.

Typical Turkish rest time, no hurry, then into Massage Room 2 wow what a full body session. The massage lasted an hour and was so good we both booked for the last afternoon to help us cope with the flight home.
Entertainment

There was a resident Animation Team, several spoke English. Yet again one had wintered with his English girlfriend “in the north.” We did not have time to sample the delights of hotel bingo or disco.

Thursday 16 June Aspendos Festival Othello (Izmir Orchestra and Operatic).
No rain 2011 a real WOW evening, Aspendos Theatre is only 1831 years old, and acoustics as good as when built by The Romans the performance worth every Turkish Lira paid was magic to our eyes and ears. This was our second visit to the Aspendos International Festival. 2011 had seats colour coded and priced with local teenage school children also coloured coded to guide us ancient Brits up and down the challenging steps.

Monday 20 July Aspendos Festival Barbarossa
Another great evening, shame music was recorded. I would dare to say not well attended theatre ½ full but we returned home Tuesday when The Vienna Philharmonic were due to play to a full house.

Friday 17 July Gloria Aspendos
This new open air theatre also offers great Friday nights “Turkish Riverdance.” It was the history of Anatolia complete with Egyptians (the world’s oldest peace treaty was between Anatolia and Egypt) and White Whirling Dervishes. Perhaps the highlight was seeing almost all the cast drumming and dancing on stage. No Noise Police here, I think all the audience of all ages loved the climax to this exciting show Friday 17 June.

Trips
1) We had a private car with Mr Urg to Antalya yes we visited a 5* Leather Warehouse. Having been subjected to watching a group of would be models, we did not buy their overpriced coats, handbags or luggage. We did enjoy walking round old Antalya and Aspendos in daylight. Remember the Centurion Actor and Camel men expect to be paid for being photographed.


2) Manavgat River, Falls and Market
Coach from hotel to Side Harbour picking up many along the way. All aboard a motor vessel, no mast no sails, for a leisurely cruise to the entrance of the Manavgat River. The sight from the sea of boats tied up to the shingle spit riverside is always amusing and a warning that our beach break is just around the bend. Regret that both sea and river after a toe test were far too cold for Dariusdave to go swimming here. Time for a drink and flatbread then back aboard and cruise into town. Transfer to coach to visit the falls that get more commercialised ever visit there is now a traders village.

I used to regard Manavgat Market as one of the great Turkish Markets. Yes it still has local produce outside with real honey. But I felt the cotton jeans and shirts, the leather handbags and belts were all expensive and the old barter and banter have gone or faded far away. Maybe I’m getting old or too many Russians paying full price first time have changed the culture. I departed with no expectation of ever returning to this market. In fact I think the Tourist shops in Kumkoy were cheaper and had better ranges of goods than Manavgat Market.

The End
We happily paid £30 yes English cash to keep our room from check out at 1100 to airport collection @1800. Late afternoon massage at The Spa then mini bus and back to Anatolia airport. Would we stay again if the price was right we would.
Footnote Return night flight awful, meal served late into flight and persons in front wanting to sleep try to lower seats no room to lower trays etc. Might I suggest airlines either fit smaller trays or have fixed seats on 4 hour flights.

Room Tip: Generously Tip the Bell Boy and Staff well speak English
  • Stayed: June 2011, traveled as a couple
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22  Thank Dariusdave
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Reviewed June 13, 2011

I will start by saying we had a good holiday despite the hotel being full of germans there was only six english out 600 besides hotel good shame most of staff could not speak english and our turkish is very limted good job my brother in law is quite good at german so we got by was not told by hotels for you about it being a german hotel and kumkoy area,room very good air con good and needed it good choise of food at all meal times as this is a AI hotel beach bril and good for small children as is very shallow also not to far to walk down hill plenty of sun beds at pool and beach over all a good time had by all . Sedi great place to see roman ruins ande good shops. trips we did were good boat trip to mangravet river bril and jeep safari good. would recommeded hopoe this helps a little

  • Stayed: June 2011, traveled with friends
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3  Thank wratt
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Reviewed April 14, 2011

The hotel was very clean and the food was average mainly the same thing everyday. The staff were very friendly and had a laugh but we were the only english couple for most of our holiday. The rep we had wasnt very good at all but overall it was ok, i wouldnt recommend that english people go to this hotel and also this part of Side is mainly the german part according to one of the german guest's.

  • Stayed: April 2011, traveled as a couple
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3  Thank nath067
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Reviewed July 30, 2010

i have read this even before me and my fiance went there because we had like a gift with an swiss aragement... what can we say... food and the room went great... other things are just not for 4 stars.... every where in side people are very poor with english...
germans , turkish , russian and even holand people are visitin this place
alot of germans there and yeah can be called german hotels....
service and drinks where horrible ... they served cheapest drinks that they can find around...
many times bar stoped .. many times no alcohol .. and if it would be original even the horribles vodka many times dissaperd...
if your going to this hotel... pls dont call from YOUR ROOM .... its horrible expensive ... they put prices what they want... thats a big rubish... i advice to you to go buy cards with impulses .. near to the shops there... they costs like 2.5-5 euros...
the shops around the place that this hotel is " Kumkoy " are terribly expensive ... and whats so shame that no product has an price puted there because .. they will put the prices how they want in the second.... fight when you buy something... the prices get 50% more cheaper...

sorry to holiday point stuff but for me the hotel its 2 star

  • Stayed: July 2010, traveled as a couple
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2  Thank Trillusion
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Reviewed June 6, 2010

Had a really good 2 weeks at the Holiday Point Hotel and could not find fault apart from the staff not being able to speak much English.

The hotel was well cared for and we found the staff helpful once we got over the language barrier. It pays to learn a little basic German.

The hotel is in a nice part of the beach and has a good beach bar with really clean toilets. The food offered at lunch time on the beach was of really good quality and better than I have experienced elsewhere.

The room was airy, clean and in good condition. Food was really good and was varied - never had a problem in finding something we liked. Much better than a lot of other all inclusives we have stayed at in Turkey or Egypt. Felt like a proper restaurant rather than some all inclusives that make it feel like a canteen. A bottle of wine on the table at evening dinner was a nice touch.

As previous review's have stated, it is just outside of Side but is easy to reach as Dolmus's are about every 10 minutes. We even managed to walk from Side back to the hotel along the new promenade which stopped short of the hotel and the last part of the journey was along the beach (took best part of an hour but was a lovely stroll).

All in all I would say that the hotel offers great value for money with really good food but don't expect fantastic entertainment. Would have been a nice touch if the hotel had wi-fi.

I have been to Turkey on a number of occasions but can't help noticing that it is nowhere as cheap as it once once. I would say that most things compare with the UK price wise and the bargains are not as good as they once were. Even the boat trips have gone up in price and felt like the staff were after making money the whole trip - from over priced drinks to overpriced photos. I think if we returned to Turkey we would probably return to the Bodrum region which I feel offers better value for money.

Hope you find this review useful - please message me if you have any questions.

  • Stayed: May 2010, traveled as a couple
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5  Thank JamNHoney
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