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Ha Mar ao Luar
Ranked #9 of 18 Hotels in Setubal
London, United Kingdom
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“Views well worth a stay”
Reviewed June 17, 2012

We stayed in the windmill for a few nights in June and we were very happy with what we found. A brilliant place to relax and really get away from the hustle and bustle.

The windmill itself is beautifully furnished while still feeling rustic. The service for breakfast is satisfactory and the installation of a phone line direct to the house is a great idea and very professionally run.

The pool is lovely and efforts are made to ensure it stays clean. The views are the reason to stay here however. Looking out to Troia and the Sado Estuary of a morning or evening is a view we won't forget for a long while.

Great location means a couple of nights here could never be a waste of time or money. Check out the ruined old castle nearby too.

Room Tip: Choose the Windmill - you won't regret it!
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  • Stayed June 2012, traveled as a couple
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common_n_hotel_reviews_1bd8 2 helpful votes
Reviewed September 1, 2011

So we arrived at the resort based on several good reviews and the fact the hotel is on i-escape.

What was good
- Secluded
- The blue room apartment was spacious and clean but basic. It would be hard to self cater using the kitchenette but it was sufficient for breakfast (tea, toast etc) and a sandwich or salad lunch
- Nice pool area
- generous breakfast - rolls, jam, cheese, ham, juice tea and coffee.
Cons
- no staff around so hard to find them to ask anything
- not luxury - our shower fitting was broken and the tiles were chipped

Overall - a good base if you plan not to stay in the hotel much. There were several of the owners family around which meant a lot of kids by the pool but as the beaches were amazing we spent most of our time on the beach.

You will need a car - it takes about 20 mins to walk down to town but about 5 euros back in a cab and you would not want to walk back in the dark! there are several dogs that will bark and chase you if you do walk down so you have been warned! The great beaches etc are also within a short drive.

Setubal is not v exciting as a town but there are a number of good restaurants, Avoid posada sao philipe - ok for a drink on the terrace but v overpriced for dinner ( 100 euros plus for 2 of us) . Setubal town has a range from small eateries ( where 2 of us ate and had a couple of glasses of wine and beer for 20 euros) to some smarter places. Champerania was very nice, with a good tasting menu for 2 people for 30 euros. Novo 1o was popular but our favourite was Xica Bia where we had some delicious and local cuisine.

They all serve you starters at the beginning but you get charged for these so watch what you eat. They do not charge you for what you do not touch. Most places its pretty standard - bread, olives, cheese but Xica Bia had yummy rabbit, veg and seafood. They also had the best wine selection we found.

All in all a nice area, but don't expect too much from the hotel

Room Tip: think the windmill would be the best as novelty value
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  • Stayed August 2011, traveled as a couple
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Genève
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Reviewed August 5, 2011

We stayed in the windmill for 5 nights. The view is amazing and the mill could come straight out of a decoration magazine. Such a romantic place, clean, friendly staff and owner, good service. Breakfast at the door every morning. Nothing to complain about at all.

We had no car and drove most of the days to Setubal by cab for dinner( less then 5 euro one way). We also tried the nearby castle restaurant, the view, food and atmosphere are really great be be prepared to pay more than down in the village.

I was very happy to find this place, a quiet and peacefull "home" to relax and reload. Don't hesitate to book if you are looking for this kind of holiday.

  • Stayed July 2011, traveled as a couple
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common_n_hotel_reviews_1bd8 22 helpful votes
Reviewed July 15, 2011

If you enjoy cozy places to stay with an amazing view, you will loved it! And the view is breathtaking!There are very few houses, so expect a service of a small business, personal and effective. Unless you really like walking like some reviews described, you should have a car, because you are staying in the top of an hill (If an natural park- Arrábida),therefore a trip to the beach, or to the town means 5/10 m in a car or taxi, and more than 20 by foot.
I didn´t give 5 starts because there are some minor problems in the room i stayed, like some tiles broken
This is my home town, so if you need some advice about restaurants, activities or something else, contact me.

  • Stayed February 2011, traveled as a couple
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Regensburg, Germany
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Reviewed June 17, 2011

The windmill is placed on top of a hill overlooking the sea. The most romantic place you can imagine. The windmill looks like a little tower and has 2 floors. Ground floor is the living room with a small kitchen and the upper floor is the bedroom with a bathroom and shower.
Setubal city is a little boring and the beaches can be crowded.
The garden contains flowers, lemons and a nice little pool.

  • Stayed June 2011, traveled as a couple
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London
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common_n_hotel_reviews_1bd8 11 helpful votes
Reviewed November 4, 2010

We stayed at Ha Mar ao Luar in mid october, after carefully checking out what the weather might be like at this time. Much to our surprise (and luck some might say) We had FANTASTIC weather!

Some people have said that a car is a must to go here, but we decided we would try it without one. After seeing how the portugese drive I have to say that it wouldn't be my choice to drive here!

Anyway, as one reviewer said, as long as you don't mind walking, it is fine. The walk (down a fairly steep hill) into Setubal itself from the hotel takes about 20 minutes. We did walk back up a couple of times (when we cooked dinner on the 2 ring stove), but this was whilst still light. The road is unlit for some parts so not recommended to do that at night.

The downside of not hiring a car was that it was a little difficult actually getting to the hotel from Lisbon airport. We ended up getting a taxi to the bus station (Oriente) and then a fast bus (the 562 from stop 21 I believe!) from there to Setubal (which takes the very cool Vasco de Gama bridge), where we then got another taxi to the hotel. This probably cost us about 30 euros as opposed to the 70 euros we were quoted to take us straight from the airport to the hotel.

The bus timetables for the 562 can be found here;

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With the bus, as our Portuguese wasn't great it took us a while to find the right bus stop at Oriente, but we managed to understand that you buy the tickets from the bus driver on the actual bus – there is no ticket booth.

As the journey there was a little bit of a stress, we got a taxi on the way back which cost 60 euros, but on balance everything is such good value in Setubal that its worth the stress saving of trying to get taxis and buses back to the airport.

The hotel itself is in a really amazing location, as long as you're after a bit of relaxation – in the Arrabida hills which is a designated National Park. We had booked the Cabana (a large wooden house in the middle of the grounds), as it said on the website that it was very private, had a 'full kitchen' and was larger. When we arrived, two of the ground staff showed us to the Cabana, which looked lovely, but they also very kindly asked us if we would like to see 'The Casinha'. This is nearby but slightly higher up the hill and closer to the main houses' terrace. They said that we could choose which one we would prefer – and I have to say, the Casinha was much more cosy for two people.

If you have a family then the Cabana is great, but we thought the Casinha had two things going for it over the Cabana; a small decked terrace with sun loungers and a table, and a better (amazing) view out over the sea, the Sado estuary and Troia Beach. The bedroom is nice and cosy, and there is a sofa, TV and CD player/radio in the lounge. There is also a small 2 ring cooker, so a couple of nights we bought food from the town (there is a supermarket called Pingo Doce on the right hand side of Avenue Luisa Todi) and cooked in the Casinha.

Breakfast is served by way of stocking up your small fridge each morning with cheese, ham, butter, jam, milk and fruit juice, and then warm fresh bread rolls are hung outside your door at around 9am.

The town of Setubal is (in our opinion) a little run down, but perhaps 'out of season' has less people and sights to cover up the many empty houses and graffiti that seems to adorn every bare surface apart from churches. However, the old town is nice, and the main square has a few cafes/bars where we had a few cocktails!

The real highlight of Setubal is it's food/restaurants. Quite simply you can eat really well for very little. Being a dock, there is an abundance of fresh fish, which you can get grilled on the outdoor charcoal barbecues at various places. We had some recommendations (which I must thank Annie from TripAdvisor for!) for restaurants and they were all extremely good;

Novo 10: This is apparently 'The Special One' Jose Mourinhos restaurant of choice when he is back in his hometown, and it is very good. Simple, rustic Portuguese cooking but the swordfish I had was fantastic.

Frango de Guia: Very good charcoal grilled chicken restaurant (if you get sick of fish, which is unlikely!), big portions and very, very reasonably priced.

O Miguel: This is next door to Frango de Guia, and is another 'Marisqueria' (Fish grill). Seemed a little more pricey than Novo 10, but again was very good. I had 2 red mullets with nice fresh side salad and boiled potatoes.

A few bits of advice which were passed on to me regarding restaurants are worth noting. When you sit down, the waiters will bring up a myriad of appetisers; bread, butter, octopus salad, olives. Whatever you keep, you will be charged for, so its best just to either say 'no thank you', or tell them which bits you'd like to keep on the table.

Secondly (and we only experienced this at Novo 10), it seems to be more traditional to serve 'Chips' with any non-fish dish. At Novo 10, this meant essentially hand made crisps! However, at Frango de Guia it was actually french fries. This is a minor point though when the food is so good and fresh.

We would walk down to the restaurants, and then get a taxi back up the hill, as we wouldn't recommend walking up the hill at night, although during the day its ok if you like a nice workout!

Lastly, our highlight of the trip was the beach at Troia. As we had such good weather we made extensive use of this. It is reached really easily via a passenger ferry on the dockside, to the left as you face the river/sea, probably 30 mins in total from the hotel. They depart roughly every 30 minutes, and cost €2 each way, and takes about 15 minutes to cross over to the Troia resort. One day we even saw a dolphin on the trip over! The beach at Troia is absolutely lovely. As we went out of season, we pretty much had the beach to ourselves! Even on the saturday and sunday there were probably no more than 20 people on the beach, and it is quite a large beach. I imagine in high season it probably gets really packed, but its almost worth going in mid/low season just for the peace and tranquility.

So to sum up, if you're after peace, walking, a bit of adventure and some stunning coastlines, then this is the place for you.

  • Stayed October 2010, traveled as a couple
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Reviewed October 24, 2010

The location of this hotel, way out above the town of Setubal, is quite special. You can walk down to the town, or you can walk on the trails in the park, or you can go swimming or just hang out. It's perfect for all those things. The owner is very, very pleasant and helpful, just honestly friendly. The breakfast, served either indoors or on the patio, was knock-your-socks off great - fresh squeezed juice, hot fresh rolls, cheese, ham, jam, butter, all the ammenities. It was so nice to just be able to get away from it all, and I didn't even stay in the old windmills, just the white room, since I was by myself. I'd go back again in a heartbeat.

  • Stayed September 2010, traveled solo
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Property: Ha Mar ao Luar
Address: Estrada do Castelo de Sao Filipe 3114, Setubal 2900-300, Portugal
Location: Portugal > Alentejo > Setubal District > Setubal
Amenities:
Beach Free Breakfast Free High Speed Internet ( WiFi ) Free Parking Kitchenette Room Service Suites Swimming Pool Airport Transportation
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#5 On the Beach Hotel in Setubal
Price Range (Based on Average Rates): $
Number of rooms: 7
Official Description (provided by the hotel):
a refugee in the arrabia hils with a stunning view overlooking Setubal Bay and near some of the most beautifull beaches in Portugal. Close to the Sado Estuary Natural Park and only 50 km away from Lisbon.Here you have an unforgettable meeting with Nature. ... more   less 
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