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New Casino --Did I hear wrong??

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New Casino --Did I hear wrong??

Hi everyone, I wondered what you thought of the proposal for a new casino in the Gorge area.This is in the Cascade Locks region and I have heard many many cons on this.Do people that fequent a casino need a breath taking natural wonder to house it in? Do those who travel to the Gorge want a casino?This was shocking to me,very "un-Oregonian" I wondered if there is another side of this story I havent heard and I am sorry if this is old news for you.Why not an industrial area of Portland/Troutdale ? Dont mean to open a can of worms,but is this the kind of tourism Oregonians want?

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No, you didn't hear wrong, kipsmom. There are strongly held opinions on both sides of the issue. But it's not as simple as, "is this the kind of tourism Oregonians want?" There are native American tribal rights involved as well. For me the bottom line is that, regardless of what I may think about it, I feel powerless to do much about it. This feels to me like another of those decisions that will be made behind closed doors, without much regard for public opinion.

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As usual, I agree with Mistletoe and think this will all be decided without much public input. I personally do not care for casinos at all, and would hate for one to come to this area. Too bad nobody in power asked for my opinion, lol!

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Since it is a "native american" casino (which is all that is allowed in OR) consider it a done deal with our current admin. What do you do?? Every scenic spot should have a place for smoking in excess and gambliing in an enclosed area with the alike. I mean really, who deoesn't???????

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Thanks for your responses.I meant no disrespect saying it was "un-Oregonian",I always think of Oregonians as progressive and nature respecting individuals who are aware of their unique surroundings.A Casino in this mix does not compute.I am also aware of all the industrial areas,many abandoned,that would fit the bill for a casino over a God made wonder such as the Gorge.When one is patronizing a casino-do they care whats outside the window?,it could easily be an area not so glorious as the Gorge.When driving up the coast last month,we came to the Coos Bay area,(I remembered the "arm pit" forum) quiet,,except the casino lot was over flowing (Sunday morning!)I think casino patrons will as easily go to an industrial park as the gorge.But,who cares what I think?.I am sorry this is happening,though I understand the need for jobs.....Wheres a Tom McCall when you need one?.

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kipsmom--I didn't think you were disrespectful at all:) I feel the same way and am disappointed that such a beautiful area might be changed. LOL, yes, I would welcome Tom McCall back into office:)

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Mtngrl beat me to it, but to your "Wheres a Tom McCall when you need one?" I was gonna say, Amen to that!

One of the issues with allowing a tribal operated casino in a more urban area has to do with "fairness" to other tribes. Thinking we might have to do it for all, we don't want to set precedent by allowing on tribe to build in/adjacent to a large urban area.

It does get more complicated than one would think.

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Ni disrespect taken here ma'am! Lets hope this doesn't create a new armpit capital.

I liked that reference : ) Thanks mom : )

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Gale Norton is supposed to be very anti-Indian Gaming and doesn't seem to want them in the Gorge. We've already made our views known to the governor (not sure how much that matters) and her. We lived in Albuquerque for a time and got to see all the stuff that goes along with the Indian casinos. Most of the people would get their paychecks on Friday and be broke on Monday. They were building a larger, multi-million dollar casino when we left. The people on the reservation were still dirt poor and they were letting the cattle right next to their new "gem" starve to death. It was sickening. People complained and they moved the cattle to an area where people couldn't see them

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How tragic.For the cattle and for the people who gamble their lives away. I am watching this from afar and if they need a casino- put it elsewhere. It sounds so simple,but I know nothing to do with govt. is

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I'm both an environmentalist and gorge lover, and also have been involved in the beginning stages of the design of the new casino. I'll try to give you the counterpoint...which I kind of agree with...kind of.

First of all, it is going to be built - it's a done deal.

Second, the idea for it is to make it a resort destination, not just one of the run-of-the-mill casinos that dot the landscape throughout the Pacific Northwest. Complete with hotel right on the river on the Indian Lands.

It's Indian Land, which isn't technically part of Oregon, it's Nationally owned reservation, so we don't really have a say in what they choose to do with it.

It's in the town of Cascade Locks, so it's not like you're ruining the unspoiled scenery - Cascade Locks isn't very attractive. So my take is that it will actually improve the look of the Cascade Locks area, bring jobs to the economically depressed central gorge area, and also make a nice alternative to Kahneeta and Skamania Lodge to go spend a weekend.

If they're going to build a casino, I'm just glad they seem like they're trying to build a good one that blends with the landscape as much as possible and serves to help the local people as much as hurt them with their newfound gambling addictions.

There's no Indian Land in industrial areas of Portland/Troutdale, so there can't be any casinos there.