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blackjack help

Hopefully amberloo or other b/j players can help me out on this.On average how many hands of b/j would be played in an hour on a normal table.

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1. Re: blackjack help

It varies greatly depending on the number of decks, the type of shuffle, and the average number of players being delt hands.

To pick a number, I'd guess around 60 has been average in my experience with 6-deck shoe games with manual shuffle. At a CSM table (continuous shuffle machine) and it can ramp up to twice that).

Since the house usually has the advantage, the more hands per hour usually equates to more loss per hour by the player. In other words, your gaming enjoyment will last longer if your money lasts longer (fewer hands per hour).

Have fun!

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good post by DD,

i was going to say 70

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A good dealer is expected to service/cycle through some 300 total dealt hands per hour from a hand shuffled deck....

So, if there were five players at the table for the period, it would be at the rate of 60 hands per player per hour.

With just one player at the table, the cycle rate decreases, as the dealer's hand (and the work it entails) constitutes a higher percentage of the total action (1/2 instead of 1/6) and there are no time-saving table "sweeps" like unfortunately occur at a full table; when they quickly grab up the whole table-full of cards and chips following, say, a dealer 21.

So, figure the most hands you will probably see as a solo player in a hand-shuffled game will be maybe 250...or 4 a minute.

Some dealers, of course, work faster or slower, and the best can achieve rates at a full table approaching 400 hands per hour; particularly if the players are quick and knowledgable. Or, up to 80 hands per hour per player at a five-person table.

A dealer that cannot service a pace of more than a couple hundred hands per hour will never make it to the top casinos.

An automatic shuffling device drives the speed of play upward, with Shufflemaster (RGB Gaming) claiming it increases play by 25 percent...more for its ultra high speed machines.

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Thanks for all the help.So my $400 @a $10 dollar table, even following the strategy card 100% of the time, may not last too long.Probably will play @bellagio since that is where i am staying,and they use csm or so i am told.Not a gambler ,not chasing comps.,just want to pass a few hours while my wife spends the day in the spa.Dont fancy the slots, too much of a social animal to want to spend that much time on my own.Amberloo judjing by this and other replies you must be a real expert @b/j,would love to spend 2/3 hrs watching you play to see how it should be done. Thanks again for everybodys help. (p.s please forgive any typos)

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with a $400 bankroll on a $10 table, playing basic strategy, I would expect to last at least 4-6 hours. Of course cards are random, and to do this many hours, you have to sometimes put a little extra out there (like when you have been getting drilled and are due), but I think you'll last for a while. I have taken $100 to a $5 table, and on an average up and down run, I walked 8 hours later up about $30. Just play smart, and have fun. Think of any losses as entertainment money.

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Thanks cactus,being a novice i would have no problem losing the $400.I am hoping to get a run for my money,a few laughs,and a bit of social company(without being asked "am i looking for company)lol lol lol

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Nah-I think you'll find that if you play for a few hours, drink the free drinks, and have fun, you'll either be up a little or down about a quarter to half of what you started with generally. The free cocktails make it an almost break even endeavor in and of itself.

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Firsttimer...

Thanks for the compliment. I am unworthy.

A couple quick pointers, assuming you play spot-on Basic Strategy:

1. Money management is almost as important as the correct play.

2. The goal of the experience is to walk away from the table "winners".

3. If you play long enough, while you will never get all of the house's chips, they will (probably) get all of yours.

4. There are thousands of BJ tables in Vegas don't get glued to one.

5. It is very easy to run through your bankroll sitting in one joint; particularly your "home" hotel.

Therefore, for someone relatively new to the game...

A. Set a reasonable winning goal. If you buy-in with $100, tell yourself you are going to get up and walk away when you reach a pre-set goal of $50, or $75 or $100 (max) in winnings. Great your "small" victory with acceptance and open arms, don't get greedy, and remember there is nothing like the feeling of walking out of a casino door with more money than when you came in (then quickly spend some of the winnings on something frivolous).

B. Don't play at any one table, or in any one casino, for an extended period...and don't chase comps. If you have positive outcomes somewhere, return to the joint later on another pass through the neighborhood. The pattern of the game, the ambience of the casino, the dopamines produced in your brain, all tend to dull your understanding of time. Make it a point to pick up, cash out, and talk a walk in the sun and open air...it is amazing how much this freshens your head.

Remember, it is the "larger odds" which favor the house. A successful player best exploits the near-term swings...and then leaves.

C. I am a big proponent in NOT doing much (if any) table gaming in the hotel I am staying at that trip. It becomes too easy to put yourself in a bad situation when you are tired, drunk, bored, waiting for someone, killing time, etc. These are the exact moments the house absolutely depends upon; making their profits when you are at your weakest. Its that last $100 you lose before going up to bed, the $50 you drop when waiting for the wife to come downstairs. These are the times the anti-gambling commercials warn about; don't place yourself in one, it can destroy a whole day of winning work.

D. If you are new to the game; find a cheap place to play (at least to start); there are plenty of $5 minimum table. You will find cheaper minimum tables and friendlier dealers somewhere other than Bellagio; not that they are unfriendly there, they have the highest of professional decorum, its just the house attitude is one of understated service, not a hootin' and hollerin' as you can find in other places (and which is more fun).

Good Luck.

When are you going? I'll be down there in a few weeks...

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9. Re: blackjack help

excellent advice there from amberloo

although, you may not mindlosing the $400, wouldnt it be alot better to build on it.

something else to look at would be the classes that many places offer, you could get used to sitting at the table, learn some good pointers and not lose anything during the class.

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Nit going till sept. but want to make sure I have all the etiquette,rules,tips etc.down pat.I will follow your advice.As i said i dont mind losing(dont gamble with money you cant afford to lose),to win or break even would be brilliant,so I suppose 2 small victories and 3 or four losses is a lot better than 1 big loss ,never thought about it that way.Yours pearls of wisdom are great advice ,I print them out and will use them in Vegas.A little bit of hollerin and shoutin and a bit of what we call "craic" is exactly what i am looking for.Dont fancy downtown so will research and ask for advice on strip and off strip casinos with low limits and good fun .Thanks again for all the help