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what is considered high roller?

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what is considered high roller?

hi all.

I'm curious as to what amount of money wagered is considered "high roller" How long and with how much do I have to play for a comped meal or upgraded/free suite. Do casinos have a vip lounge with free drinks? I'm a high roller at the Montreal casino and play with anywhere from 5k-15k but I think at vegas this is still considered the kids tables.

cheers

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11. Re: what is considered high roller?

Your screen name is offensive.

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12. Re: what is considered high roller?

It all depends on the casino. At Wynn, Bellagio ect ect you have to be betting 100 a hand before you even get noticed. At older, cheaper casinos you might get comped if you bet 10$ a hand.

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13. Re: what is considered high roller?

High Roller is a relative term. Just like Hot Chick. It is all a matter of whos using the term, and their perspective of things.

Montreal
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14. Re: what is considered high roller?

thanks for all the help.

I usually gamble 5k-15k per visit (200-1k per hand)

i normally play blackjack but will play other games 3 card poker, craps, and the occasional slots.

I just want to know what I can reasonably expect, before I look like an idiot for asking too much or settling for less then I should

When I go to vegas my limit will be 20k. I'm figuring about 5 hours a day playing.

Do all casinos have similar comp structures? If I call before and speak to a host will they even talk to me since I am far from a whale?

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15. Re: what is considered high roller?

I have been told the following guidelines for comps:

Venetian: $200/hand for four hours per day

Wynn: $250/hand for four hours per day

THEHotel: $250/hand for four hours per day

Those are the comp guidelines at the upscale properties.

It'll go down from there at the lower scale properties.

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16. Re: what is considered high roller?

I should mention that these are the guidelines for blackjack at the respective properties.

Georgia
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I too am new to this, however I've been two times to Vegas since Labor Day and here is what I can tell you. Get a player's card and use it at the tables, slots, or whatever you play. If you bring $5K with you to gamble during your trip, and your length of play (time) is considerable, you will easily be awarded free rooms and meals. If you live near a major city, Harrah's may fly you out to Vegas (comp). I acheived this after one visit, free rooms, free airfare, and free meals. My first visit, I played $25 craps for roughly 8-10 hours per day for 3 days.

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Someone who makes a lot more money than you.

Niagara Falls...
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19. Re: what is considered high roller?

comps are based on a formula and it is not an exact science. It is the game you play, the number of decisions per hour on that game, the house edge of that game and your averge bet....for a long time the casino's would give you back 40% of your theoretical loss but I believe they are lowering this number recently.

i.e. you play blackjack for three hours and average 200 bucks a hand...the house edge is about 2% and the average hands an hour is 80:

80x200x3=48000 divided by 2% is your theoretical loss of 960 bucks

40% of it is 240 dollars and this is what you have earned for those three hours.

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20. Re: what is considered high roller?

Don't worry about harpoons. The term "Whale" refers to roughly 500 players worldwide. Do a search on Kerry Packer he is the Blue Whale of the pool. His game's are Baccarat at 100k hands or BJ up to 375k a hand. Google him his stories are legendary. Also a good toker.

Most "Whales" are Asian and LV is losing them to Macau rapidly.

But as others have said it all depends on where you're playing as to what they will offer you.