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Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

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Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

I usually put together a hit list of things I am going to do for an upcoming trip. This time it's got craps at the top. A long-time and seasoned Blackjack player, I think this trip I am finally branching out but starting with just pass/no pass minimums and then strictly playing the odds.

Any advice for me? Also, will I be a heel if I play don't pass since I know off are better?

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1. Re: Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

Download and play a few rounds on a free simulator before you go, watch a couple of YouTube videos on basic strategy if you haven't already and have fun! As far as bets go, it's your money, play the don't pass if you like.

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2. Re: Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

Start at WizardOfOdds.com for info. He also has some good videos that walk you through how to play and all of the various bets.

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3. Re: Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

Playing the don't (the dark side) is technically better house edge but don't expect to make any friends at the table if you go this route.

I would suggest playing the pass line with odds along with two come bets with odds.

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4. Re: Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

A good friend told me Craps is a game of liquidity, and he was right. Originally I would buy in for 200 or 300 and bet the pass line and 2 come bets with 2x or max odds. I'd usually lose my buy in then I'd stop.

Now if I buy in for that little amount I'll just do the pass line with Max odds and no come bets. So if you're going to bet multiple #'s with Max odds you need to be liquid enough to sustain the lows to reach the highs.

Have fun!

Edited: 11:36 pm, November 19, 2017
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5. Re: Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

Since you have never played Craps before I would stick with the Pass line with odds and also put some minor bets down on the 6 and 8. After you feel comfortable move on make a couple of Come bets with odds. Move onto the Don't pass line after you think you have mastered the basics and feel comfortable at the table.

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6. Re: Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

What you gain on the house edge by playing the don't pass, you more than lose by being unable to participate in the camaraderie of the game. That's what distinguishes craps for me from any other game in the casino-being able to share the highs and lows with my fellow players. My additional 0.05% odds feels kind of hollow when everyone else is high fiving the shooter when he hits the point....

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7. Re: Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

Good luck. I play mostly craps in Las Vegas and play on the don't side quite often. Don't worry about what anyone thinks of your play on the don't. It's not a team sport !

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8. Re: Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

It's OK to start out with just playing Pass or Don't Pass and put some odds out, and get the timing and flow down, but before long, you'll get tired of waiting for that single bet to get resolved and want more action, and that's when you should branch out to playing one or two Come or Place bets.

Placing odds is overrated for a beginning player, especially on a smaller bankroll. Don't feel like you're a sucker if you don't put odds out.

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9. Re: Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

Thanks for all the advice, folks. I did check out Wizard of Odds a bit to better understand the odds (wouldn't gamble without this data) and will be starting with the Pass/Don't pass for the very reason you mention, Swearingen - to get the flow of the game down. Blackjack is indeed second nature so I am a little surprised at myself that I would have any trepidation with this aspect.

Harry I think you are right. For the .05% it probably is worth the camaraderie and the random tip from a fellow player while I am learning the game flow a bit better. I'm sure I will eventually build up to playing the don't pass if I want. From what I can tell, it doesn't sound like craps players are as cranky as blackjack players...

I think my only concern is some of the weird odds payouts that cannot be paid - and how to recognize them. For instance, if something pays 5/6 and I put 5 down on it. I'm sure the casino is always happy to keep the fractional value...

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10. Re: Craps: I am Really Going To Play this Trip...

In Vegas, they will round down as there are not $0.50 chips (but there are in London casinos). Just work on memorizing the payouts for the odds bets and you will be fine. Also, you will likely be told by someone working the table if your odds won’t pay out in a whole dollar amount (at least that has been my experience the few times I forgot to add the proper amount behind the line).

If the table is a little intimidating at first, try starting at a bubble craps machine.

Edited: 9:45 am, November 20, 2017
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