Does anyone know which restaurants or bars have been around the longest ?
Also, what are the newest ones to open?
One of the oldest has to be Pepe's(1909) and one of the newest - the Breakfast Club Too.
PjkEdited: 12:14 pm, June 11, 2018
Capt. Tony's was the original Sloppy Joe's of Hemingway lore.
Sloppy Joe's has been at it's current location since 1937....
Sit back and get comfortable.
This is a walking tour of Hemingway-relate places. Unfortunately you cannot "do" #3 or #7 anymore but I noticed there's a new shop where the Pelican Poop was on Simonton. You did #7 by going through the shop to the small garden for the audio tour. There is a nice garden in there and if it ever becomes available again check it out. .
There's a Hemingway Letters Project in the works which intends to publish every letter extant that he wrote, and they are pretty liberal with what they consider a letter, including telegrams, inscriptions, dedications and my favorite - a letter which survived as the imprint of another letter on the next page of a pad. They are up to volume 4 which goes to about 1931: in Key West but pre-house and boat. Who'd a known Ernest and Pauline lived at 1100 South Street for a while? The Overseas Hotel. Still with me? Anyway, the only two places mentioned so far are the Casa Marina and the La Concha, both of which he used to put up visitors to Key West. And he mentions over and over how much he liked to go out to the Tortugas to fish.
There are 17 volumes projected and if this seems like a lot find the complete letters of Henry James. The good news is that reading the letters is very interesting, not only the letters but the footnotes that go along to explain references to people and places and to decipher some of the slang he used. "Seeds" for "dollars" for example. And after reading several hundred letters you realize the difference between the voice an author uses in written works vs.. everyday letter-writing.
The downside? I will not live long enough to read volume 17. Volume 5 seems to be taking forever. Let's get on the stick Trogden and Spannier.
PjkEdited: 11:27 am, June 12, 2018
With Key West being an island in the Tropics, I assumed it's history would be older than here in Cincinnati. I knew that Arnold's was the oldest bar in Cincinnati, but to my surprise it predates all the bars in Key West. The building where the original Sloppy Joe's was located was built in 1851, but the bar didn't open until 1933. Arnold's, which still is in it's original location, opened in 1861. But I'd still rather be in Key West now.
I have you by almost a century - during the summer you will often find me at the outside bar listening to live music here:
Yes the oldest bar in NJ is right down the street from me, and can have a Key West vibe on a warm summer night.Edited: 3:51 pm, June 12, 2018
It makes sense that coastal cities would have older bars. That's why I was surprised Cincinnati's was so much older than Key West's. It took a long time for the settlers to make their way this far west.
Ohio became a state in 1803, Florida in 1845. Its common sense that Ohio would have older bars. Older restaurants. Older churches. Older everything. Ohio is just older LOL!
But isn't the oldest city in the US in Florida?
Don't you think the Spanish might have established a few taverns in the Keys? And found their way to the Rock?