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What's with "The"

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What's with "The"

I read all the posts on this forum, and I know this is no big deal. But I was just wondering what is correct? Should "The" be used before Revel?

The casino's I would use "The" before are: Borata, Golden Nugget, Showboat, AC Club, Plaza, Tropicana and Taj

The casino I would not use "The" are: Caesars, Bally's, Resorts and Revel

I guess the Plaza could go either way. I'm going to Trump Plaza or I'm going to The Plaza.

Any thoughts on this?

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1. Re: What's with "The"

I suggest you use whichever you feel comfortable with. I wont judge you. Whether you use a 'the' in a sentence or not, is not going to change whether I can decipher a post and successfully respond to it or not.

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2. Re: What's with "The"

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just some useless information, the bronx is the only county in new york that you pronounce the bronx, you would say i am going to nassau county but you wouldn't say am going to the nassau county, the same is true with queens, kings, suffolk etc. and you wouldn't say i am going to bronx, you would say i am going to the bronx, the reason is that the bronx was named after a dutchman who setttled there, jonas bronck, and when you went to visit his family you would say i am going to the broncks. hence today, it is proper to continue to say i am going to the bronx.

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4. Re: What's with "The"

"The" Revel is incorrect, as really is "the" before any other hotel/casino property in AC when simply referring to their name.

If you're traveling to a specific hotel it would vary upon which hotel that would be. You could be going to the Borgata, to the Tropicana or to the Golden Nugget, for example, but you wouldn't ever be going to the Caesars or to the Revel or to the Harrah's.

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5. Re: What's with "The"

can you supply some sort of explanation or rationale as to why you believe "the revel" is "incorrect" and "revel" should be used 100% of the time when referring to ATLANTIC CITY's newest casino hotel?

why should the revel be treated differently than the golden nugget or the borgata or the tropicana, for instance, in the examples you cited?

why wouldn't you be going to "the revel" in the example you gave?

i'm terribly confused.

articles are a type of determiner. whether or not you use an article depends a lot on what other determiners you're using along with the noun and upon the context in which you're using it.

i strongly encourage all those interested to click the link c-srt8 provided above. we've had this discussion before.

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6. Re: What's with "The"

After reading this my life seems much better. And even better my friends seems smarter now. Who cares what you call it. Seriously!

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7. Re: What's with "The"

To begin to understand how "the" is used, we must first think about nouns. All nouns are not the same. To begin with, we can divide all nouns into two large groups: proper nouns, and common nouns.

Proper nouns are names. They are names for people, streets, books, movies, restaurants, countries, rivers, songs, etc. They indicate one specific thing, they point to one and only one example of a type. English proper nouns are always written with the first letter capitalized. Words like John, Japan, Mars, Fifth Avenue, Ginza, etc, are all proper nouns. Proper nouns don't need a the. It's as if they already have one attached, so they can't (except under certain unusual circumstances) take another one. They already mean "the one you know"

Common nouns, on the other hand, are general words for types of things. They do not stand for one specific example of a thing, but rather for a class of things, for a type of thing. Words like pencil, boy, river, book, etc, are all concrete common nouns. They can never be used without some form of classifier or article in dialogue. They are all "things" and so we must either know about them beforehand or not.

My 4th grade English teacher would be so proud :)

In other words The Caesars sounds wrong because Caesar is a name and already has an inferred "the". Its purely a trick of your brain though if you didn't already know that Caesar was a name it wouldn't sound odd to you.

Edited: 11:54 am, August 02, 2012
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8. Re: What's with "The"

that's all certainly true, but it's only part of the story.

if there is only one "borgata" in ATLANTIC CITY and if "borgata" is a proper noun, then why does gardenia correctly place the definite article "the" before it when she says someone might be "going to the borgata?"

(it should be noted that the borgata itself claims that there is no "the" before its name. one problem for them, however, is that their website is "theborgata.com," but that i suspect has more to do with domain name availability than grammar.)

the answer, again, is in that link that c-srt8 so thoughtfully provided.

Edited: 12:05 pm, August 02, 2012
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(((( the borgata or the water club would also be fine (but those do not meet the OP's requirement for being within walking distance of showboat). ))))

Only Special Ones may use the word "the"

Edited: 12:16 pm, August 02, 2012
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10. Re: What's with "The"

similar to "The U"...

Also...shouldn't it be" What's with the the" ?

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