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Trumps Comments on repealing smoking ban

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Trumps Comments on repealing smoking ban

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In my opionion Trump doesn't want to spend the money on smoking lounges because his casinos are doing so poorly. He could care less ablut his customers, it all comes down to dollars and cents to him. He also realizes that smoking in casinos are on the way our anyway, it's just a matter of time. My guess is that by the end of this year both Pa and NJ will be 100% smoke free without smoking lounges. If you notice now smokers wonder with their cigarettes even with a 75% ban. I guess they feel that as long as there not sitting on a slot machine in a non smoking section it's ok to walk and smoke thoughout the casino. This really defeats the purpose of the smoking ban to begin with, that is to prevent non smokers from BREATHING IN SECOND HAND SMOKE! Smoking lounges would non create a real change, as I'm sure smokers will be inconsiderate and walk thoughout the casinos with their lit cigarettes on their way to the smoking lounges, especially oriental customers who have no regard for the law. If you don't believe me look in the coin trays in the "non smoking areas" and look at all the cigarettes put out in them. Look in the elevators and look on the floor at the cigarettes put out on the rugs. Management is not going to chase away a paying guess so there is only lose enforcement. When I asked a slot attendant at Trump Taj Mahal to tell a customer to stop smoking in the non smoking section, she reponded, " they don't pay me enough money to ask them to stop smoking". Isn't it funny how smokers comply 100% in restaurants and work places but in NJ casinos they don't take it serious. Delware Park has no problem with smokers complying, smokers there have adapted nicely to smoking outdoors and everyone gets along nicely. THERE NEED TO BE A CLEAR RULE OF 100% non smoking in EVERY INDOOR PLACE PERIOD! Not you can smoke on this side of the aisle but not on the other! It leave too much room for abuse, which we are seeing now.

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ok i am a smoker. i really enjoy smoking and gambling together. it just kind of goes ahnd in hand to me. i think if ac stops smoking period it will be the downfall. i understand second hand smoke, and choices, etc. lets face it many people do smoke and many do not. you get rid of smoking and you get rid of many gamblers that will go to the other casinos (indian) and smoke all they want.

then you will se ac start to slump in profits which in count will reduce employees, service, etc. etc. etc.

i for one would never return to ac when i have other choices where i can smoke.

on another note i totally agree with non smokers. there should be areas for that clientele also, nice supported areas that follow the rules. on occassion i am sure someone would come in smoking and it should nicely be said sorry this is a no smoking room or area and that is that.

in canada in niagara falls before they banned smoking (and lost some profits due to it) they use to have 2 floors, a smoking floor and non smoking floor. both equally nice with the same games tables etc. it was for sure the smoking floor was always more crowded, but in any event i thought that was an awsome idea.

for some of the nasty people who just flip out over smoking, give it some slack. be leary of the self rightous!! i don't drink and take offense to drunks who do the nastiest or stupiest things, or who risk the safety of others. I dont see a ban on that, I think that can be more dangerous than second hand smoke!

They need a happy medium for everyone, and non smokers you need to support an are for us as we should you, for the well being of ac's future and letting american citizens make their own choices

thanks

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This point may have been touched on, but I think it's been lost: one of the main issues with 2nd hand smoke is the plight of the WORKERS who have no choice but to work those areas.

I learned way back in high school health class that a healthy set of lungs is pretty good at repairing the damage done by the *occasional* exposure to smoke.

However, a bartender, cocktail waitress, slot attendant, etc. that is forced to work a smoking area has *continued* exposure. Sure, they get to go home to their non-smoking environment, but at that point it's too late.

full disclosure: I lost my mom and a sister to smoking and not due to the obvious reasons like lung cancer. Too long a story to get into here and I don't want to 'go off topic'.

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John - I'm really sorry about your loss. :-(

But I have to disagree with you that anyone is "forced" to work anywhere. The dangers of smoking have been known for several years. People who have chosen to earn their living working in a smoking environment have mad a choice to do so (at least in the last few decades).

Just like I think it is ridiculous that the families of lifelong smokers are allowed to bring lawsuits about the tobacco companies due to the "untimely death" of the smoker (who could have quit); I think it is ridiculous for people to say they were "forced" to work at a smoking casino.

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Well I see we are into this topic again and once again those who smoke are offended by those who don't smoke and who feel they are being lumped in with the bozos who flaunt the rules and drive everyone nuts. Too bad it happens but like in a lot of areas in life, the few screw it up for the many. I would suggest that perhaps you considerate smokers police your fellow smokers who break the rules. Perhaps if a fellow smoker told them, they might pay attention. Short of that, just ban it 100% and there will no longer be anyplace for these folks to invoke the fudge factor. Trust me, you smokers may be frustrated by the way the rules seem to be going but we non-smokers are also very frustrated.

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Is anyone 'forced' to work at the casinos? That's debatable; yes, there are other options, but let's face it, AC is a service-based economy. To some extent, the casinos are 'the only game in town'.

Let's set that aside, though, and talk about what happens once a worker makes a choice to work at a casino. The worker is then subject to the whims of the managers and here is where I think a solution lies. I think 'shift managers' have to be cognizant of the dangers of smoking and make it a point to keep his workers from consistent exposure to smoke. Maybe 1 day in a smoking section and 2 days in a non-.

more disclosure: I'm actually FOR smokers' rights. People have the right to screw up their bodies as much as they want. Just don't infringe on MY ability to live a healthy lifestyle. If I'm going to the casino for a day, being around smokers isn't exactly an infringement since I know my lungs will heal once I leave. If I had to WORK there, however...

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You know, I am sick of being preached to about the dangers of smoking. As long as I am not directly or deliberately affecting anyone around me, then lay off. I don't go up to fat people and say "don't eat that, you are too fat already, don't you know what you are doing to your body?!!. I don't remind everyone who takes a drink what alcohol does to your liver. I decline lots of goodies and spend many hours a week in the gym in order to maintain a healthy body. Overweight Americans are costing this country a heck of a lot more than unhealthy smokers. Self indulgence is a big contributor to what ails society in many respects.

Having said that, I agree the smoking boundaries need to be better segregated. I don't want to be made to feel guilty if I choose to poison my body with cigarettes. We recently had a cocktail waitress who was obviously pregnant. I couldn't believe her managers didn't assign her to a non-smoking section. Needless to say, we were not comfortable smoking around her, a choice we should not have had to make give our location.

If you read the posts above there are many comments about how crowded the smoking sections are. Is this the less than 20% of casino patrons who smoke? I also posted a recent article that casino revenues are down almost 35%. This is not good for anyone, especially those of us who rely on generous comps to enjoy the casino lifestyle. We need to find a happy medium, but it seems no matter what the solution someone is always going to complain that it's not enough, it's not fair to them, etc. I challenge anyone to come up with an ideal solution that will make everyone happy. It will be interesting to see the responses.

Cheers,

LuvBreezes

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I was watching a movie the other day called LEAVING LAS VEGAS with nicolas cage and elizabeth shue. Nicolas cage plays an alcholic who wants to "drink himself to death". Elizabeth Sue plays a vegas hooker who falls in love with him. During the whole movie she keeps telling him that she loves him yet you watch her sit back and do NOTHING to prevent his ultimate death. She says in the movie, "well I guess I understand him and he understands me". At one point she make a weak attemp at asking him to go to a doctor. If she really loved him, she would have done more! This movie reminds me of this whole smoking issue and the bridge collapse. People figure there is nothing they can do and it doesn't effect me so why do I care? It's their life their decision. But sometimes people need outside help to overt a tradegy that they can't see themselves. If you see a 1000lb man stuck in his house from overeating do you not feel empathy for him? Do you do nothing and say, "well it's his life decision". I would hope some of you would try to help and not sit back idely and do nothing. It takes people to bring up these issues that enable people to see their problems from a different point of view so they are able to make a decission to change. Smoking lounges are NOT the answer, first it doesn't eliminate people from walking to the lounge while smoking and I know this is going to be the case. Second it splain unfair that the casinos should be allowed smoking lounges while restaurants and bar smokers have to go outside to smoke. The fair thing to do is have one standard. 100% no smoking indoors and smokers can go outside to smoke. Anything less would be unfair to the other industries.

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Its reaching a bit to say that it would be unfair to other industries. You can't smoke in restaurants at the casino either. The casino part of the casino (as opposed to the food establishments) is not competing with the restaurants for business. That's like saying its not fair that the casinos get to have slot machines when the local restaurants can't.

I like LuvBreezes post regarding overweight people costing this country a lot more money than smokers. Maybe the smokers can all go outside to smoke and the fat people can all go outside when they eat. (LOL - sorry, I couldn't resist)

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acura123 - You missed the point of my challenge. That solution makes YOU happy, but not EVERYBODY. This is what I meant when I said there is no happy medium. Smokers have rights, drinkers have rights, even morbidly obese people have rights. Unless you can suggest a way to meet everyone's needs, your posts are just redundant. Please, be careful stepping down off that soapbox.

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I know it couldn't be done, but wouldn't it be interesting to have two casinos completely smoking, all rooms, whole gaming floor, all restaurants etc. Of course they would have to install extra ventilation, and all employees would have to be given the choice of where to work. All the other casinos could go to non. (This would actually be almost 25% of the total gaming space, if you combined all the casinos together.)

I wonder which casinos would have the most business....

Again, don't tell me it couldn't be done, I know... but it would be an interesting experiment.