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too much smoking, things are not the same.

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too much smoking, things are not the same.

It seems since MGM has taken over the Borgata..........there are way too many smoking sections and people smoking in the non-smoking sections. I go there at least once a month almost since they opened. and am thinking I will have to switch casinos because of this issue. I am not supposed to be around smoke due to an eye disease. Also I don't get near as much slot dollars anymore. The sinks in the rooms seem to be clogged a lot. It is also way colder there than it used to be. There are filled up ash trays all over the place and the slot machines are dirty. They are now charging for what used to be a free comp room and have added on some other tax and travel type charges. I bet if someone had a smoke free casino....they would do better than the smoking casinos. I hear people complaining all the time. Wake Up!

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1. Re: too much smoking, things are not the same.

Revel is supposed to be a nice smoke free casino :)

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Casinos were smoke-free when NJ first enacted a smoking ban, and the result was disasterous for the casinos. People like you complained all the time they wanted non-smoking casinos, but once they went non-smoking no one showed up. The state compromised by allowing smoking sections in casinos.

As mentioned, Rebel was non-smoking. They didn't even last 3 years.

If you want non-smoking, go to Delaware.

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They have been closed for at least two years....(the revel)

Edited: 11:50 pm, November 18, 2017
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I think they stopped that ban before it even got started.

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I've noticed Borgata seems like the smoke is worse than in the past. They also seemed to have moved the smoking section closer to the main walkways. Years ago the area where you came in from the self park garage was non smoking, now that's a smoking area and you get hit with it as soon as you enter the casino from there.

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I remember when smoking was banned in AC. At the time, if I remember correctly, there was little or no decline in Casino revenue. The second floor casino area at Caesars is smoke free if that is what the OP requires. If Borgata does anything right, and they do a lot that is right, it is that they keep a clean casino and hotel.

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Here is an interesting article on the smoking ban rollback.....circa 2016........

casinoconnectionac.com/issue/vol-13-no-5-may…

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I don't know why that article keeps saying 2016 (I guess that's when the article was re-posted, but definitely wasn't when the smoking ban went into effect). The smoking ban took effect in 2007, and was a disaster. The casinos lost about 6.6% of revenue in the month or so it existed, when in a billion dollar industry is tens of millions of dollars.

Every once in a while someone will say we need to do it again. History has shown that the people that want smoking bans are simply trying to ban something. They're not gamblers, and have no intention of going gambling if the casinos were smoke free.

Delaware experienced the same loss of revenue effect when their smoking ban went into effect, which was prior to NJ's smoking ban.

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I agree with you. I’m a loyal patron of the Borgata, and definitely notice the increase in smoking areas and smoke in general. Things have changed since the MGM took over and not for the better, in my opinion.

I still like the Water Club, but the rooms need to be updated.

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New Jersey law says each casino must has 75% of dedicated space to non smoking machines. The Borgata might have changed the smoking areas but didn't increase the square footage, it's 75/25. It could very will be that where they changed to the smoking areas to are more noticeable do to it's location and also that the smokers are used to particular smoking areas and are not aware that the locations have changed. Most areas are marked with signage above but I think they should also have stickers on all non-smoking machines, that way you can't miss it.

I do understand that the changes at the Borgata since MLife, have not been for the better, but I was not surprised.

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