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Walking with lions - is it cruel

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Have have been poking round the Internet and have seen different views as to whether the animal (cats) are well treated. I guess it's similar to the debate on captive dolphins at The Atlantis on the dubai forum (which we've done although afterwards felt a little uncomfortable).

It seems some people believe that the cats are subdued (drugged) to allow the interaction that takes place.

I have seen some threads on Trip Advisor but they are fairly old.

Would be interested to hear recent experiences.

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This is a real bugbear with some of us on here.

I was lucky enough to see my lions in the wild in SA, Kenya, Zambia and Zimbabwe and I realize a lot of people aren't so lucky.

No I haven't done the lion walk and I actually disapprove quite strongly of this practice - its unnatural and not good for the animals. It really does annoys me when I see the billboards advertising this in Mauritius.

We recently saw some reviews from people who mentioned that they saw the keepers use the sticks that they carry, on the lions physically - and I believe them. If they do that in front of paying customers I would hate to see what they get up to when the public aren't around. No idea about the alleged drugging but anything is possible.

They have a similar situation in some of the African countries and people have spoken out against it on those forums too at one time or another.

I would be interested in what you have found out? Or of anyone's experiences?

Thanks for bringing this subject up - its about time someone did!

Edited: 3:49 pm, June 06, 2013
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BTW there was an article posted about the dolphin cruelty on Dubai this week (it was removed 5 times and reposted and the thread was eventually pulled) I also disagree about keeping dolphins in captivity and the swimming with dolphins some operators in Mauritius advertise. Our dolphins are wild but are being harassed more and more by boatloads of people on a daily basis.

Here's the article that was removed on Dubai:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257426/

Its quite horrific.

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Thanks. I did see that and your contribution and that prompted my question with the walking with lions experience. No evidence that the lions are drugged but they certainly aren't wild. The walking with lions website talks about conservation but I'm not convinced.

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Well they would, wouldn't they?

And they don't convince anyone.

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I'm a guy in my mid 40's so I'm not some sort of environmentalist but I am starting to worry ( I'm sure much to late) about the relationship between animal cruelty and tourism. Some peeps have recognised this for ages I'm sure. I'm from jersey, Channel Islands and durells zoo does so much good real conservation work. Their logo is a dodo which I think became extinct in Mauritius.

My conflict is I'd like my kids to get up close with big cats, dolphins or whatever but it for me just seem right. Problem is that you run out of time before they grow up.

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Is it the same story for the crocs at La Vanilla?

Edited: 5:27 pm, June 06, 2013
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Tiggipaws that's another place I haven't been and TBH I know very little about it - not seen any bad reports about it like we have with lions is all I can add :)

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We were happy with the way la vanille works Tiggipaws. Visited a couple of times and they do have a good breeding programme, they are kept in good surroundings. Actually think here is one of the best places to see the giant tortoises.

Mazza

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I also am unhappy about the walking with lions and like Bronia wouldn't recommend or visit

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Coming from Africa, I can't see the link with lions and Mauritius. I certainly wouldn't do the lion walk as it is totally foreign to their natural behaviour to be interacting so closely with humans. I prefer to see lions roaming wild in the bush.