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National Geographic Expeditions POST DISNEY

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National Geographic Expeditions POST DISNEY

National Geographic Expeditions (post-Disney) review- READ BEFORE YOU BOOK OR

WHILE YOU CAN STILL CANCEL IF YOU ARE ALREADY BOOKED

We, like so many others, grew up with the organization National Geographic held in high esteem. Therefore, when we were looking for a trip with two other couples, we felt very comfortable signing up for the Swiss Trains and Italian Lakes trip. Many other groups offer similar trips but we chose National Geographic because we were “guaranteed” to have an expert traveling with us in addition to the tour leader and occasional local experts. Talking with friends who had taken the trip PRE-DISNEY we were told it was a wonderful experience in every way - the expert they had accompanying their trip was an outdoor enthusiast and mountain climber who added so much to their trip. They also enjoyed the “guaranteed” first class train tickets since some of the trips, especially the Glacier Express, were quite long. We were sold. Huge mistake! We were deeply disappointed by the actual trip.

Pre-trip warning #1 - one couple in our group was sent a pre-departure letter giving instructions for a completely different trip. The instructions were for a trip to Norway. Our trip was to Switzerland and Italy.

Pre-trip warning #2 - For some bizarre reason, we were not given the option of paying the balance of our trip online. Instead we were told to call a specific National Geographic number to give our payment information over the phone. Each of us spent from 2 to 3 days trying to connect with a human. This is not an exaggeration. I put my phone on speaker for hours at a time. Each of my numerous calls would be answered electronically and put into an endless queue that would eventually disconnect. On the third day, someone actually answered when I was only about two hours into the process! This is the point we should have canceled but once one of our group had paid in full we knew they would forfeit their money if we canceled so we hoped for the best.

Actual trip issue #1: Day one we were instructed to meet at the airport to take a direct train to Zermatt. But, lo and behold, that train was not running that day so we instead needed to take a series of 3 different trains that ate up the entire day. Why this was a surprise we don’t know. This was entirely blamed on the Swiss Federal Railways but we can't help but wonder if this might have been anticipated and handled better.

Actual trip issue #2: There were not enough First Class seats on the train trip to Zermatt. This was also blamed on the Swiss Federal Railways since there “should have been one more” first class car on the train. Therefore, some of our group were in First and some were in Second. Needless to say, there was confusion and unhappiness but everyone just wanted to get to the next stop. We were told that this train was not as important for First Class as the famous Glacier Express later in the trip.

Actual trip issue #3: On our first morning in Zermatt we were told that our Expert would not be able to join our group until later in the week. The entire group was angry and disappointed. The question was asked as to whether we would be compensated for these days since having an expert was a huge reason for booking with National Geographic. We were told to be patient and to not worry.

Actual trip issue #4: The long (7 hour) Glacier Express Train tickets also were now in Second Class seats despite the promise of First Class seats! Again this was blamed on overbooking by the Swiss Federal Railways.

Actual trip issue #5: Our Expert would not be able to join us due to a medical condition that kept her from high elevations! Seriously? NatGeo should have been prepared with an alternate “expert” available, for two obvious reasons. First, the waning pandemic is still with us, indeed 6 of our group sickened near the end of the trip. Second, our mostly-absent Expert has a long history of sickliness, indeed she wrote a book about it. Bully to her for carrying on with her career, but the possibility of her being unable to perform her duties for us was high.

Actual trip issue #6: When our “expert” finally arrived (on one of the final days), it turned out that she was quite sedentary and an expert in things like freelance travel writing. We had foolishly thought that we would be assigned someone who was an expert in Switzerland since that was the main focus of our trip. Having her show up for Lake Como was pretty worthless as, quite frankly, were her two lectures which I won't bother discussing. She didn’t even deliver the scheduled third lecture. When you see the word “expert” on a trip summary, be aware that it could be anything from mountaineering to flower arranging. Or so it seems.

General trip disappointments:

Mediocre hotels. We were in the same hotels as low cost groups like Gate One. Meals covered by National Geographic Expeditions were (with one exception) cheap and mediocre. However, suggestions they made for meals “on our own” (i.e. not included in our tour cost) were good but often expensive.

An announcement was made that we would all be given a credit of $250 for issues on the trip. Wow! An entire 3% credit. What we ended up with was a quality budget trip, like Gate1, at TWICE or more the price.

Sadly, for National Geographic the cost of this pathetic trip and insulting credit of $250/person will result in a manyfold loss of future customers. Nearly everyone on this trip is in the process of planning numerous future trips to exotic locations. Those who already have trips scheduled through National Geographic Expeditions will cancel them, us included. Those considering future trips with National Geographic Expeditions will now book with a different organization. Perhaps the biggest price they will pay is that all 24 people on this trip will tell these stories over and over and strongly encourage others to avoid National Geographic Expeditions.

The issues on this trip were extreme enough that we considered just leaving the group and traveling on our own. If we had not been traveling with friends I seriously think we might have done just that.

The positive of this trip is that we met some wonderful friends and bonded quickly over the daily missteps by National Geographic Expeditions.

As a footnote, our leader did the best job he could possibly do under the situation. He was put in the horrible position of delivering bad news day and after day and scrambling to make the best of a disastrous trip. We do not blame him.

B W
Bern, Switzerland
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Seeing that you are from NY. I was in the States only once, in NY. All that I was interested in were the various museums and arts collections. OK, I come from a country of simple mountain people so I went to see West Side Story as well. German speaking peoples do musicals but they just can't, it is horrid.

In 2 weeks I did them all. I have NOT been on top of the Chrysler building and whatever building/monument one should visit, but most certainly visited the oyster bar in Grand Central Station, the waitress was an old pro and certainly knew what she was doing, she never stopped pouring my white wine.

A visit I will always fondly remember, despite all the flags and banners with Blumenthal for the election in people's gardens.

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As mentioned in an earlier reply... for consumer advocacy.... check out Elliott Advocacy. I see his columns online in my google feed, I have seen his columns in various papers (Chicago Tribune, Denver Post) . The staff there might be a resource for you.

Good luck!

New York City
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We will check that out. Thanks for the suggestion.

New York City
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We have good friends who took the same exact trip as us about 3 years ago. They said it was fabulous and they had a great expert guide. Interestingly, in the middle of their trip the announcement was made about the Disney takeover. The guide and expert both wondered aloud what the future might hold for the company and themselves as employees. Fast forward 3 years and the company is simply not the same. I think you are exactly right that they are living off their past reputation. We hope it catches up with them soon so they are forced to once again live up to their promises.

New York City
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Next time you are here you should should go to Zabars and Katz Deli for a true nyc experience. Oh and my husband would suggest getting a $25 rush ticket to the Met Opera. It sure sounds like you covered a lot of territory in two weeks. Nice job.

Canton of Valais...
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This probably isn't the forum you are looking for because almost all if not all the posters on this forum plan their own travel.

I have travelled with groups on the Swiss Federal Railways in the past. They have a special section for groups and it is very easy to block (free of charge) the seats needed. That said - it is the Matterhorn Gotthardbahn that runs the trains to and from Zermatt so NG should have been in touch with them too. MGB also runs the sector of the Glacier Express from Zermatt to Disentis where RhB takes over..

Clearly you feel that NG did not live up to your expectations. In the US there is something called the "Better Business Bureau" - I would get in touch with them, in the place where NG is licensed as a tour operator or travel agent and complain to them. While we can have sympathy for you here there isn't much else we can do ex post facto. Had you posted before you booked this trip we would all have told you that a travel agent/tour operator is totally unnecessary for travelling in Switzerland ! But maybe you know that now...

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Thanks for your input. We were traveling with two other couples, with very different approaches to traveling, which is why we thought a tour would be easier. Our mistake. We are experienced travelers but in this case we made a huge rookie mistake by trusting the National Geographic reputation of our youth. Shame on us for not doing our due diligence to discover the reality before we passed the cancellation date deadline. Or better yet before we booked in the first place. National Geographic Expeditions is not a safe bet and the traveler is the one left holding the bag when things go wrong.

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