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Visit Castle and then drive to Berchtesgaden

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Visit Castle and then drive to Berchtesgaden

Hi,

My wife and I will be staying in Fussen on Oct. 14. We will be spending one night in Fussen and will be getting into town late.

We are currently booked on the first English tour of the Neuschwanstein Castle in the morning. How long does the tour take? Is it possible to tour the castle and then drive onto Berchtesgaden? We were going to take the Alpine road to Berchtesgaden so it should be a little longer then just taking the autobahn.

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1. Re: Visit Castle and then drive to Berchtesgaden

The routing below from Fuessen to Berchtesgaden is very scenic and will take you about 4 hours, maximum, leisurely driving. This will help you to decide if you want to take this route, or stay on the A-12 past Oberau (see below) to the Autobahn A-8 in Germany, and east on it to Salzburg, the faster route.

Leave Fuessen heading south on the Austrian Route 314 to Lermoos. There pick up the Austrian Route 187 east to Garmisch Partenkirchen. At the border,the route number changes to B-23. Pass through Garmisch and follow the signs to Mittenwald - Innsbruck. The route is B-2. At the Austrian border the route changes to 177. Continue on the road south to Zirl. There pick up the autobahn A-12.

IMPORTANT: To drive the Austrian autobahns and Schnellstrassen (sort of a junior limited access highway) you need a Vignette. This is a toll sticker that goes onto your windshield. You can buy it at any service station in Germany near the border, or in Austria BEFORE you enter the autobahn. Its costs about $10 (in EUR) and is good for 10 days. DO NOT get on the autobahn without this vignette. The cops are just waiting for you and will require that you pay the $100+ penalty right on the spot. NOTE: if you travel on the German A-8 to Salzburg, the last 5km are on the Austrian autobahn and will also require the Vignette. Get it in any of the rest areas on the A-8.

Take the A-12 east as far as the Oberaudorf exit (#59). This is about 90km from where you get on the autobahn at Zirl. At Oberaudorf, head east on the Austrian 172 to Walchsee , Koessen and Reit im Winkel (in Germany). In Reit, pick up the Deutsche Alpenstrasse (B-305) to Berchtesgaden. Specifically, the road will lead you almost to Ruhpolding, but before R. (shortly after Fritz am Sand) the B-305 makes a sharp right turn. Follow the B-305 to where it merges with the B-306. Stay on the B-305 to Weissbach, Schneizlreuth , Berchtesgaden This whole trip from Oberau is very scenic, along the Wilde Kaiser mountain massif; Reit im Winkel is a picture postcard Bavarian village; and from shortly after Schneizlreuth you will be traveling with great views of the Watzmann mountain on your right. On that stretch, if you look hard straight ahead, you can see near the top of the mountain ahead of you the Kehlsteinhaus, commonly known among Americans as the Eagle's Nest.

All these are good roads and not very challenging.

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2. Re: Visit Castle and then drive to Berchtesgaden

Thanks for the reply and routing (especially the info on the stickers for going into Austria)

Was reading the forums trying to get more info for the trip (only 3 weeks out!!!!) and as usual got more ideas and feel like 19 days in Germany is not enough!!!

Is it possible to make a side trip south to the Dolomites? As of right now we are spending 3 nights in Berchtesgaden and 2 nights in Salzburg. While in Berchtesgaden we plan to see Konigsee lake, Ice Caves and drive the Grossglockner Pass. In Salzburg we just plan to enjoy the city for a day and half.

After 5 nights in Berchtesgade / Salzburg we will be driving to Munich for 4 nights.

So back to the question of Dolomites....Can we drive down south from Fussen to the Gardena Pass and spend one night somewhere over there and cut one night short in Berchtesgaden? If so where do you recommend we stay and what is the best way to get down there?

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3. Re: Visit Castle and then drive to Berchtesgaden

You could make it a loop from Fuessen to Berchtesgaden/Salzburg, as shown below.

But let me ask you a question first: Why, if you spend 5 days in the area, are you moving from Bg'dn to Salzburg? I would stay all the time in Salzburg and let the weather decide which day trips to take. It's only a bit over 35 minutes by car from Salzburg to B'gdn. Salzburg is more of an "evening " town than B'gdn.

Now, to your trip: Go south from Fuesen on the Route 314 (Fernpass, easy drive) top Ims, Imst to Landeck (either autobahn or Route 171). Landeck south on the 315, to the Italian border, and continue on the same road, now numbered 40 and 38, to Meran. Very nice city. Continue east to Bolzano. Another attractive city. Head south on the Autostrada (simple toll road, no vignette, etc.) to the Neumarkt exit., Unfortunately, I remember only the German name for this exit, but it is only 16km south of Bolzano/Bozen, and the start of route 48, the Grande Giro d. Dolomiti. This is a fabulous road, but makes only sense in good weather, because of the views and road conditions. Drive it to Cortina d'Ampezzo, and stay overnight there. I stayed there overnight in the Fall a couple od times and didn't need a reservation.

Then continue on the 48 to Dobbiaco/Toblach (all this area used to be Austria, so it's still bi-lingual). Take route 100 to Lienz (not to be confused with Linz). Now, if you had your share of pass driving, take the road from Lienz to to Mittersll (Route 108), It's a pass, but easy driving , and on to Kitzbuehel (Route 161) and Route 312 to Lofer and Schneizlreuth. From there taker B-305 to Berchtesgaden, as described in my earlier posting.

If you want more pass routes, and the Grossglockner is still open (it closese in November), take Route 107 from Lienz across the Grossglockner (toll road) to Bruck and Zell am See, fdrom there the 311 to Lofer, and see above.

I have driven all these roads and they are all good (if the weather cooperates).

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4. Re: Visit Castle and then drive to Berchtesgaden

Thanks a lot for the advice.

In Berchtesgaden we are staying at the Intercontinental Resort and plan on doing the lake, Jennerbahn and the Grossglockner pass. We decided to stay in Berchtesgaden instead of Salzburg because we wanted to stay in Alps and from what I have read the intercontinental has some nice hiking trails nearby and great pool/spa facilities.

Also seems like most people are recommending that 2 days in Salzburg are more then enough.

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5. Re: Visit Castle and then drive to Berchtesgaden

Good reasons! There are some nice hiking paths on top of the Jenner, and if you feel like it you can either walk all the way down into the valley or walk to/from the second half of the gondola.

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6. Re: Visit Castle and then drive to Berchtesgaden

Thanks for all the help. Only 3 weeks left!!!!

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