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If we catch a train into Baden-Baden for the day, what should we do?

Is it easy to get around without your own transport?

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1. Re: Baden-Baden

1. Gamble - or have a spa treatment - - or do some high-end shopping - or pay too much for a meal. Maybe someone else has found something else to do there, but I haven't.

2. Not very. The train station is WAY outside of the town center; you'll need to grab a bus or a taxi to get into town.

Catch a train from where? There are probably other interesting places to go.

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From where?

Baden-Baden train station is in Oos - a suburb of Baden-Baden. From there you have frequent buses to Baden-Baden itself. Baden-Baden itself is walkable. But as a mini group 24 hours ticket (KVV Cityplus EUR 8,20) is less than 4 singles) you can always hop on a bus if you like.

bus network map Baden-Baden (schematic)

kvv.de/fileadmin/…L06BAD_DEZ11_Internet.pdf

Bahnhof = train station

Festspielhaus/Alter Bahnhof is the first stop where it becomes interesting.

network map Baden-Baden (topographic)

kvv.de/fileadmin/…Stadt_Baden-Baden_2007.pdf

brochure with a map with sights marked

baden-baden.de/imperia/md/content/bbt/brosch…

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You may want to have a look at the tips in my Baden-Baden page over on Virtualtourist: members.virtualtourist.com/m/f86bd/12d15/ (Russ, I recommend a look at that page to you, too. There is a LOT more than just gambling and spa treatments.)

Getting around is easy if you combine walking with the city buses. Do not try to walk into town from the train station. The station is in the suburb of Oos, which means walking at least one hour before you reach anything of interest. There are several bus lines into town, the most useful is the 201 which runs every ten minutes into town and further to Lichtenthal convent at the far end of Lichtenthaler Allee. Buy a CityPlus ticket*, which is a 24 hour pass for up to five people travelling together, cost is 8.20 €. SInce a single ticket is 2.20 €, this pass already pays off for two people and two bus rides.

*From where will you be travelling into Baden-Baden? if your starting point is within the regional public transport network or within Baden-Württemberg, there are even better options for day passes.

Edited: 4:19 pm, December 30, 2011
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There are also guided tours through the casino (the most beautiful on the planet) before noon (i.e. outside the gambling times).

casino-baden-baden.de/de/…fuehrungen.html

01.11 - 31.03: 10am - 12am (last tour is at 11.30am)

01.04.-31.10.: 9.30am - 12am (last tour is at 11.30am)

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Friedrichsbad spa treatment is a classic

http://www.carasana.de/home/en/roemisch.html

rather dry: the Roman Bath ruins

baden-baden.de/en/…2055

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Albeit it won't work normally with a day trip: Festspielhaus Baden-Baden is the 2nd biggest opera house in Europe

http://www.festspielhaus.de/en/news/

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If you're into Classical Modernism and contemporary art

museum-frieder-burda.de/…

and another (mainly on Frida Kahlo)

http://www.kunstmuseum-gehrke-remund.de/

others

Fabergé Museum

www.faberge-museum.de/index.php?lang=en

Staatliche Kunsthalle (with changing exhibitions)

http://www.kunsthalle-baden-baden.de/

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Merkur Mountain and the Merkur Funicular Railway

baden-baden.de/en/…318

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"Russ, I recommend a look at that page to you, too..."

Some nice pages and well-written descriptions, Blandine. I didn't do the Merkurberg - perhaps my impressions would be somewhat different if I had - and I didn't get into the Festspielhaus. I think I overstated my comments about activities in B-B. But I don't think it would be incorrect to say that the vast bulk of B-B's tourist pull involves casinos, spas, and shopping. I do like good gelato and microbrews, so I was pleased to read your suggestions in the event tht I am shuttled by unknown forces into Baden-Baden again for a third visit. Glad I got to see your pages there.

Edited: 10:42 pm, December 30, 2011
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Thanks everyone. I am coming from strassbourg. How would I get to see the black forest from Baden Baden?

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Baden-Baden (town) is at the foot of the Black Forest. The area of the community of Baden-Baden stretches even to the heights of the Northern Black forest (from approx. 150 m above sea level to up to 1.000 m).

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You could travel to Baden-Baden via lake Mummelsee which is close to the Hornisgrinde, the highest peak of the Northern Black Forest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummelsee

more photos on the German page

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummelsee

Strasbourg dep 08:22 Mummelsee arr 10:10 with changes in Appenweier and Achern (to bus #7123).

From Mummelsee you can use Baden-Baden city bus #245. Departures are at 10:40 11:40 and so on.

You can do the bulk of this trip on a Baden-Württemberg Ticket. EUR 29 for 2-5 persons travelling together. Covers the whole round trip apart from Strasbourg to Kehl (the town across the Rhine from Strasbourg). For details it would be important to know if you plan this trip on a Sa or Su or on a weekday.

DB timetable

http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en

Start: Strasbourg

Destination: Mummelsee, Seebach (Baden)

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Start: Mummelsee, Seebach (Baden)

Destination: Augustaplatz Museum Burda, Baden-Baden

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Start: Leopoldsplatz, Baden-Baden

Destination: Strasbourg

and select as means of transport "only local transport".

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"I am coming from strassbourg. How would I get to see the black forest from Baden Baden?"

I would recommend a scenic train ride on the Black Forest Railway line:

black-forest-travel.com/places-of-interest/b…

You can do this trip with the B-W Ticket (daypass) abalada suggested. It requires just one change of train each way. Check the DB timetable - there are many trains throughout the day in each direction. I'll use the 8:22 train that abalada suggested as an example.

The 8:22 train continues beyond Appenweier to Offenburg; get off there at 8:52 and switch trains.

OPTION #1: The 8:59 from Offenburg follows the BF railway route exactly. The scenery is great all the way to St. Georgen, the highest of the train stations at over 800 meters elevation. However, St. Georgen itself isn't an especially interesting place to get off and look around. You might get off in Triberg at 9:43 (around 600 meters elevation.) It's a healthy walk uphill from the station into the center of Triberg if you want to look around there; the Black Forest Museum there is great, but is mostly in German only.

OPTION #2: There is a 9:04 train from Offenburg that follows the BF railway as far as Hausach, where it shoots off to the northeast into the Kinzig River Valley. The point of this detour is to see Schiltach, a gorgeous town of cobblestones and half-timbered buildings. You'll arrive there at 9:46.

IF YOU HAVE LOTS OF TIME, do both: do option #1, stop in Hausach on the way back, and change there for a train to Schiltach.

Other nice towns where you can get off, tour for an hour or two, then get back on: Hausach (nice town, walk to the Vogtsbauernhof open-air museum: http://www.vogtsbauernhof.org ), Hornberg, Gengenbach (Only 8 minutes from Offenburg, fantastic old walled town with towers, cobblestones, half-timbered homes.)

www.black-forest-travel.com/gengenbach/

http://www.black-forest-travel.com/schiltach/

http://www.black-forest-travel.com/hausach/

http://www.black-forest-travel.com/hornberg/

http://www.black-forest-travel.com/triberg/

Note on tickets: there is a daypass called the Europass Family 24h., good for 2 adults (12€) that you can buy in Strasbourg.

ortenaulinie.de/tgo_dateien/…20final.pdf (sorry, it's in French and German)

It is good on city transport within Strasbourg, and it gets you on the trains to the German border and across the border on the regional trains within Germany along the Black Forest railway and all the way to...

(option #2) Wolfach (just past Hausach) but not quite to Schiltach. Wolfach-Schiltach is 10 min. and costs an additional 2.20 each way, so your fare for two for the day would be 20.80.

(option #1) Hornberg (just past Hausach) but not quite to Triberg. To Triberg costs 3.40 each way, so add 13.60, and your total fare for two is 25.60.

(These extra tickets can be bought at a ticket machine in Offenburg or perhaps from a train conductor.)

Edited: 10:04 am, December 31, 2011
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FYI: This sketch shows the rail lines and towns I mention above (Offenburg is not shown but lies just northwest of Gengenbach.)

http://www.rad-gleis.de/epo1/schwbjetzt.gif

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10. Re: Baden-Baden

BAden-Baden is a wonderful and not really a "tourist" city. It is a place where Germans go to "do" things - like gamble at the casino, or take in a horserace in season, go to one of the spas, or have a hike. It used to be and still has the flavor of a wealthy resort town.

If you have any interest at all in spas (which really can include just soaking in pools), I suggest a trip to Caracalle Therme (or Friedrechsbad, but more sparse) and a walk in the hills.

http://www.carasana.de/home/en/caracalla.html

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