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Gwydyr Stables and Snowdonia Mtn June 2011

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Gwydyr Stables and Snowdonia Mtn June 2011

I am thinking about a trip to North Wales in June 2011. Plan right now would be to stay in Conwy and see Conwy, Caernarfon, and Beaumaris Castles, then take train to Betws-y-Coed to stay at Gwydyr Stables http://www.horse-riding-wales.co.uk for 3 days horseback riding. Does anyone know if we could get a taxi to Gwydyr Stables and about how much it would cost? Does anyone know anything about it?

Is there a good way to see Snowdonia Mtn from Betws-y-Coed, or do we want to go somewhere else to see it. Would like to take the train up if weather is good, but we only have the one day when we would be arriving from Conwy, so not sure that is practical. Are there any good walks from there for average fitness self and better fitness 13 y/o daughter? We don't do a lot of hiking.

Is there a scenic railway in the area that would fit with out plans?

Any suggestions would be great. We could hire a car, but if we can do it by public transport, I'd rather do that. Driving on the other side of the road makes me nervous. I did it back in the early 90s, but had a Brit friend with me to assist. This time I'd only have 13 y/o daughter.

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1. Re: Gwydyr Stables and Snowdonia Mtn June 2011

Ideas for walking in Conwy:

Catch a bus to Llandudno and get the Victorian Tramway to the top of the Great Orme.

http://www.greatormetramway.co.uk/

There is lots of easy walking on the top here.

http://www.greatorme.org.uk/orme.html

The Marine Drive makes a nice walk

walesdirectory.co.uk/Walks/Llandudno_Pier_Ma…

There is also the walk up Conwy Mountain:

walesdirectory.co.uk/Walks/Conwy_Mountain_Wa…

Walking in Betws y Coed

There may well be lots of walking from Gwdyr Stables - they will be able to advise you.

Otherwise this makes a lovely walk:

snowdonian-walking.co.uk/…20betwsycoed.htm

Taxi to Gwdyr Stables

Have you contacted the stables as they may be able to give you the information you need.

Alternatively try emailing Betws y Coed Tourist Information Centre who may also be able to help:

Email: tic.byc@eryri-npa.gov.uk

Snowdon Mountain Railway.

You need to go to Llanberis. The railway does get very busy and there is only 1 coach on each train. In summer there can often be a long wait before you can get a seat, especially if there are a lot of coach parties as they will fill a train. It is advisable to prebook a ticket. HOWEVER be warned weather on Snowdon can change rapidly and the cloud can come down. There is no point in doing the journey then as you won’t be able to see the views. Also the top of Snowdon isn’t much fun if it is raining...(You may gather from this that I'm not a great fan of the railway!)

Other scenic Railways

There are two narrow gauge steam railways in the area - the Ffestiniog Railway and the Welsh Highland Railway.

http://www.festrail.co.uk/

Ffestiniog Railway

This is a heritage railway which was built to carry slate from Blaenau Ffestiniog down to the wharves at Porthmadog where it was then shipped around the world. It is still using some of the original locos.

Catch the train from Betws y Coed to Blaenau Ffestiniog. This is a nice run up the Conwy Valley. At the top you go through a tunnel and are suddenly surrounded by the huge slate tips in Blaenau. The Ffestiniog Railway train is across the footbridge and runs down the Vale of Ffestiniog to Porthmadog. The top part of the run is through wild mountain scenery and then it drops down through the woods and finally across the Cob with fantastic views up to Snowdon into Porthmadog station.

Think about breking journey at Tan y Bwlch. There is a cafe on the station and it is a nice walk down the nature trail to Llyn Mair which you see from the train.

Welsh Highland Railway. This has been rebuilt over the last 15 years on the trackbed of a line which shut in the 1930s. It starts from Caernarfon and runs along the flanks of Snowdon (Fantastic open scenery with amazing views) into Beddgelert Forest, through the Pass of Aberglaslyn and into Porthmadog. (It is finally running into Porthmadog this year).

Careful study of timetables it might be possible to do a round trip - bus to Caernarfon, then Welsh Highland to Porthmadog, transfer to Ffestiniog Railway (same station) to Blaenau Ffestiniog and then Conwy valley line back to Betws y Coed.....

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2. Re: Gwydyr Stables and Snowdonia Mtn June 2011

Hi

Are you planning to travel to Caernarfon and Beaumaris by public transport ?

This is a good site to check out and plan public tranpsort links:-

http://www.traveline-cymru.info/

I live about 6 miles from Betws y Coed and taxi's are quite expensive even from my village to there, you could maybe get a quote in advance (Menyn's 01492 642 422 is located between Betws and Conwy) but there are also buses to Betws from Conwy.

Hope you have a lovely time.

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3. Re: Gwydyr Stables and Snowdonia Mtn June 2011

Yes, our plan was to do it by public transport. As mentioned, we could hire a car, but it does make me a little nervous. I have researched this previously, and it seems we could get there by bus.

Thanks for all the railway and walking links. I will go through them and get back with any further questions.

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4. Re: Gwydyr Stables and Snowdonia Mtn June 2011

A lot of the roads in that part of North Wales are narrow, winding and have stone walls along them. June is beginning to get busy too and some peole don't always drive as carefully as they should.

With careful study of train and bus timetables it should be possible to get to most of the places on your list.

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5. Re: Gwydyr Stables and Snowdonia Mtn June 2011

Does anyone know if we could get a taxi to Gwydyr Stables YES, it is possible to get a taxi from Bets-y-coed to Gwyder Stables using the local taxi firm and about how much it would cost? Don’t Know but can find out for you and we will post later

Is there a good way to see Snowdonia Mtn from Betws-y-Coed. Yes, S2 Sherpa bus from Betws-y-Coed 20 min journey currently £1.00 each way leaves from Platform 2 Betws-y-coed station.

Would like to take the train up if weather is good, but we only have the one day when we would be arriving from Conwy, so not sure that is practical. Are there any good walks from there for average fitness self and better fitness 13 y/o daughter? We don't do a lot of hiking. It is possible to get the bus to Pen-y-pass and walk along the miners Track to the summit of Snowdon in relative ease. You should be aware that whilst this is the shortest route, it does leave all the climbing until the last part and can therefore be very strenuous. The Sherpa buses which service Snowdon start from Llandudno and not Conwy so you would have to factor in additional time to ensure all the bus connections work. It would be far better to base yourself at Betws-y-coed where transport connections are easier. In addition, should you decide not walk up Snowdon, there are plenty of low level walks that can be done in and around Betws-y-Coed, making it the ideal base to explore Snowdonia.

Is there a scenic railway in the area that would fit without plans? As an alternative you can take the 11.00 departure from Betws-y-Coed towards Blaneau Ffestiniog then cross over the platform to take the 11.45 departure towards Porthmadog on the Fffestiniog steam train. Returning via the same route either for 15.00 or 17.00, timings approximate.

The advantage of basing yourself in Betws-y-coed is that it is a transport hub and has been since Victorian days in the 1800’s We have trains, buses and taxis as well as numerous walks that will keep you occupied for your stay and all without using a car for the duration of your stay. The main advantage is that all of this can be accessed from the doorstep of your accommodation Bets-y-coed. For further information why not go to bryn-bella.co.uk/news-offers/snowdonia-witho… for more ideas on how to make the most of public transport during your stay. We are the only business in the Snowdonia National Park to have been awarded the Gold Star from the UK National Green Tourism Business Scheme and specialise in promoting Snowdonia without a car. Please feel to contact us direct on welcome@bryn-bella.co.uk and we will do our best to advise you.

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