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this is a link about Storm City's plans from a Blackpool Casinos site. If it doesnt work, try typing in 'storm city' 'blackpool' on Yahoo

blackpoolcasinos.org/news/…dream-230506.htm

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Sorry to confuse things- yes I was referring to bigalanmarrs comment.

Bigalanmarr is beginning to sound very much like the proprietor of a hostel.

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I have just noticed that the somerfield site which i thought was acquired for storm city now say's it has been acquired by someone else.Does anybody know what's going on

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Storm City couldn't acquire anything because they haven't got any money. The Coliseum business is an example of propoganda and nothing else.

These people are trying to whip up a storm in the hope of being awarded the rights over land they don'y own, so they can make a few quid.

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wouldnt surprise me if the nobles have sneaked in and bought it!

Dave, why do you think storm city are hot air? You must know something we dont....go on - tell if you dare!! If they really dont hav ethe money, why would they go thru this consultation with the council? They only stand to be uncovered.

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Nobles good thing/bad thing? I suppose it depends on your point of view re the casino bid.

On the bright side if it is them then the site has the potential to be transformed into something 'visitor friendly'. Worst case scenario is another 'gambling shed' but for them to build this would impact on their other assets in the town.

From a speculative point of view who would buy up the site with so much uncertainty over it? Although Storm City may be a pipe dream at the moment if it does take off the council could order compulsory purchase at a lot less than actual market value.

Lest just hope whoever has bought it invests and brings that part of the town back from the doldrums.

To be honest Storm City or a Nobles indoor attraction it doesn't really matter. The important thing is the inward investment.

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I cannot stress this too strongly. The Noble organisation are only interested in the Noble Organisation. They are predominantly amusement arcade operators and are wholly owned by the Noble brothers, the sons of Barry Noble, who started off with Funland on the promenade. Any investment they make will be geared to maximum return for minimum outlay and unless they can have exclusivity they will be luke warm about anything. Nothing much wrong with that you might say but the Nobles attract zero visitors to Blackpool. They have invested zero in the town. Nobody comes to Blackpool on the basis of what Nobles provide, they may well visit their arcade while they are here but that is all. Nobles feed on a mixture of locals and visitors and a decline to 9 million visitors a year to Blackpool does not impact on their business very much. Better for them to make a fortune from 9 million than have to compete with other similar attractions which might mean 13 or 14 million visitors. They want a casino licence themselves and they call this proposal an investment in the town! Ha Ha! This casino is not to target new visitors, oh no, its for the existing population in the main. Nice money for Nobles. no money for Blackpool. Now you can listen to their smart talking Mr Beisterfield until you are blue in the face but you will hear nothing but self serving rhetoric from him. They have invested a lot of money in trying to scupper the Super Casino bid and had no little sucess with their tactics at the public meeting chaired by Prof. Crow.

A highly paid QC put Blackpools case to the most searching scrutiny and dominated the proceedings. What was supposed to be an opportunity for Blackpool turned into a third degree grilling by a legal hatchet man employed by Nobles. This company has a track record of going to law to protect its monopolies and I think that if Blackpool is to be regenerated then companies like the Nobles won't be the ones to do it. As for Storm City, I still think its a bunch of chancers looking for a council committment which will then enable them to seek finance from various parties. Why can't Blackpool do that for itself? If there are serious investors lurking out there then why does the Council not know about them. The quickest way in is the direct route. These so called investors, if they exist, should go straight to the Council and start talking.

Have a good easter everyone!

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Ave 56.I did see the BBC program about Blackpool's presentation to the casino panel and am aware that Nobles contributed significantly to Blackpool's failure and leading on from that the position we are in today.

No one has the right to 'own a monopoly' in any town. If these are the tactics employed by this Company and it is generally against the towns better interests then the Council should have the authority to do something about it. No doubt Nobles or whatever Company Name they dress themselves up as are required to apply for many licenses to the Local authority in order to conduct their businesses. The council has the power to apply conditions to these licenses which may make them not be so advantageous as they currently are.

On the other hand the Storm City development may just have been a ruse to get control over a parcel of land which given the right circumstances could have increased in value many times overnight particularly if it had a super casino plonked next to it.

I feel there is still a few twists and turns to be played out yet in the great Casino debate. Whilst Blackpool will probably not get it there seems to be Government money available for some regeneration.

The Global Warming Debate took another step forwards this morning. If the Government is serious about reducing everyones carbon footprint then they need to dissuade them from flying as often as they do. If they were to do this they need to provide an alternative. It would make sense from their point of view to inward invest in our home grown holiday resorts, particularly if the stick they use to dissuade is taxation as appears to be the case at the moment.

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Agree with you entirely Geezer 466 that there are a few twists and turns to go before we see an end to the Super Casino debacle. I do wonder though if there will still be Government regeneration money available if the whole casino house of cards come tumbling down. This is entirely possible given Gordon Hood's attitude to expansion in this sector. Still, at least the towns plight has been well and truly aired in Parliament and so I am hopeful.

What you say about Global Warming is also true but given that I believe that this Government will use these issues mainly to raise revenue I cannot believe that there will be any serious attempt to curtail air travel especially for holidays. I remember predicting a bumper year for Blackpool following 9/11 and I thought that all the people who didn't fly for a year or two might holiday in the UK and Blackpool would get its share. How wrong can you be!

I do not know where they went but it sure wasn't here.

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True enough Ave 56 but sooner or later if the danger from Global Warming is even half as bad as is being reported then the Government will tax carbon emissions to an extent where air travel becomes uneconomic for the masses.

They are caught between a rock and a hard place. They preach all about 'saving the planet' but seem to be short of ideas other than taxation on what to do about it. They do talk about research into 'cleaner engines' but given the fossil fuel element is this really possible? I am one that falls into the camp that 'Peak Oil' (do a google or wiki on the term) is playing a part here and explains why both the US and our troops are involved in what many believe to be an illegal war in Iraq/Afghanistan and soon Iran.

We should also beware escalating taxation on other more formal means of transport.We are starting to see this now on larger 4x4 type vehicles.

Bottom line is do Mr and Mrs Smith and the two kids from Basildon still wish to holiday in Florida or some other far flung destination when it means Mr and Mrs Singh's house is under 3 feet of water in Bangladesh.

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Hi Geezer 466. We could probably debate Global Warming forever but I do know this much. "Mr and Mrs Smith" won't be thinking too much about whats happening in other countries otherwise they would stay at home now and give their holiday money to the starving (and there are plenty of them). People take a long time to smell the coffee in this world. As an example, my fire alarm went off at 4AM one morning last year and I was full at the time. I ascertained that it was a false alarm but guess how many people got out of bed to avoid being burnt to death? Thats right: none. Comments ranged from "are you just testing it out" (from a guy who poked his head round his bedroom door to " Oh I never pay any attention to those things they are always false alarms". You really couldn't make it up. I think that they would need to see and feel the flames licking round their backsides before taking any evasive action. Sorry to be cynical but almost twenty years in this game has taught me a lot about people, some of it unprintable.

Enjoy your Easter weekend and sunshine.