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No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

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No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

This was mentioned on a different post, and had me wondering...

"No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica."

"Allow me to re-state: No casinos anyone with a brain would gamble in."

It seems that alot of the resorts advertise casinos... what it the scoop?

(I did NOT want to hijack the "small change" thread, but I really am interested now...)

Lori in Wisconsin

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1. Re: No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

There is no table gaming in JA, just some slot & joker poker type machine's at some of the resorts

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2. Re: No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

they don't have card games in Jamaican (i had been told they were illegal (playing cards, some jamaicans call dominoes cards)... not sure if that is true, but i do know i've seen the inside of a jamaican "casino" and there were no card tables...could have swore i saw roulette and craps but i'm a little confused as to if these are "legal" games...

i *think* there is a casino in Montego Bay on/around hip strip if i'm not mistaken...

hotel ones are typically all video-style casinos to my knowledge... the new palladium would be the only one i can think of that, if they advertise casinos, *might* have live staffed games based on the style of the hotel... but then they would still be only approved games... outside of that, the terra nova in Kingston has a live staffed game room (that is also open to the public), not the normal tourist crowd tho...

here's an article from a few months back

jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/…lead2.html

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3. Re: No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

JMC... they most def had live staffed gaming tables in Terra Nova in Kingston...

one was that game that has the big triangle on the table... i can visiualize it in my head but can't think of it LOL), there were also a couple more, but there was a whole room (not large) with slots around the outside and staffed tables in the interior about 10-15 tables...

I will ask and see what games they have...

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4. Re: No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

Ok, let me rephrase that~

For the most part, there is no table gaming in JA & mostly just some slot & joker poker type machine's at some of the resorts

Kingston, the capital and the largest city, has two casinos, Falmouth has one, Negril has two, Ocho Rios, which is a major port, has two, and Montego Bay, which is also a port, has four. Both Ocho Rios and Montego Bay attract many tourists primarily, but not all, from cruise ships. Hotel resorts host most of the Jamaican casinos and this is convenient for tourists who don't have to travel any further to play their favorite games.

The Treasure Hunt, which is situated in Ocho Rios, is the largest casino in Jamaica, with a total of 120 slot machines. In Jamaica casinos, table games are not common, but most of the casinos will have a large number of slot machines and they are often open 24 hours a day like the Treasure Hunt of Ocho Rios

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5. Re: No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

A large casino has been prposed for Rose Hall:

The proposed US$1.8 billion, 4-5 star Resort & Casino is situated in Rose Hall, St. James.

ROSE HALL, JAMAICA (April 23, 2008) - Prime Minister Golding announced yesterday in Parliament that his Government has entered into an agreement with the developers of The Palmyra Resort & Spa at Rose Hall to construct the island's first casino hotel.

The proposed US$1.8 billion, 4-5 star Resort & Casino is situated in Rose Hall, St. James directly across the street from three championship golf courses on the island of Jamaica. The property is located on approximately 65 acres, which includes nearly one kilometer of beach front property. The Resort & Casino enjoys the extraordinary feature of being less than a 15 minute drive, on a brand new 4 lane highway (with median), from the Montego Bay International Airport. The project shall consist of the main building, a sixteen story structure containing 1,500 keys, a 75,000 square foot Casino and Sports Book, a state of the art discotheque, assorted meeting space, including a divisible ballroom, an outdoor function area, retail space, front desk lobby, a spectacular lobby lounge overlooking the Caribbean Ocean, bars, restaurants, kid's club, health club, spa, back of house, etc.

In addition to the main building the project shall include a marina, a shopping center complete with its own "Restaurant's Row", a Dolphin Bay, 4 secluded beaches, an arts fair market, the "Blue Mountain" Water Entertainment Complex, an iconic 2,500 seat water amphitheatre, as well as many other premier attractions and features. The project will also be connected, by way of a pedestrian overpass spanning across the freeway, to a 2,500 person capacity convention center, committed to by the government of Jamaica. "I can confirm that we are currently in negotiation with several major, hotel and casino brands, which recognize the opportunity that Jamaica presents," said Robert T. Trotta, developer of The Palmyra Resort & Spa.

The development will encompass a 10 acre ‘Blue Mountain' water and entertainment complex with slides, lazy rivers and lagoons; a dolphin bay marine attraction; a water amphitheater for concerts and entertainment that seats 2,500 people as well as a world class marina. Additionally, the multilayered resort project will offer a variety of restaurants, nightclubs, entertainment and shopping experiences throughout. Said Robert T. Trotta, developer of The Palmyra Resort & Spa, "The project will prove to be the "tipping point" for unprecedented growth in both tourism and property values in Jamaica. The next decade will come to be known in Jamaican history as the moment in time when Jamaica established itself as "The Tourist and Financial Capital of the Caribbean".

Over the last 5 years, the area of Rose Hall at the center of Jamaica's ‘Gold Coast' has experienced explosive growth, turning the elite enclave into a veritable tourist mecca with several high-end hotels, three championship golf courses and a luxury shopping village. The new project firmly places Rose Hall on the map as the new ‘hot-spot' for the in-crowd to reside and play. Said Dennis Constanzo, President of The Palmyra Resort & Spa; "The casino is just a fraction of the investment. We want to build a world-class destination, which will result in the creation of thousands and thousands of jobs." said Constanzo.

According to Constanzo, with the announcement of the first casino in Jamaican history being directly next door to the Palmyra; "I see property values set to explode, resulting in nothing but joy for our existing owners and very little time for our future buyers to take advantage of the opportunity to gobble up our remaining residences. As such, we expect a quick sellout of our remaining residences."

Said legendary hotelier Horst Schulze, President and CEO of Solis Hotels & Resorts, which is the management company of The Palmyra Resort & Spa, about the announcement; "This is spectacular news! Casino entertainment will be a ‘Number One' amenity for our guests. It will provide a huge promotional advantage that will place Jamaica at the top of the list of Caribbean destinations and bring additional, high-end tourists to the island."

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6. Re: No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

Most Jamaican casinos are part of resort hotels, which means nearly all Jamaican casinos are located in popular tourist areas of the island.

Popular casinos include:

Coral Cliff Hotel (Montego Bay)

Hedonism II Resort (Negril)

Hedonism III Resort (Ocho Rios)

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort (Montego Bay)

The Jamaica Pegasus and Derby Rooms (Kingston)

Jungle Negril (Negril)

Renaissance Jamaica Grande Resort (Ocho Rios)

Terra Nova Hotel, Monte Carlo Gaming (Kingston)

Treasure Hunt Ocho Rios (Ocho Rios)

Slots make up the majority of floor games, but video poker, blackjack, Caribbean Stud Poker, craps, and roulette are also available.

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7. Re: No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

Thanks so much for all the info....

I am not heading to Jamaica just to gamble, so I am sure I will not be too dissapointed. :-)

Although I was perplexed at the comment that had been made on the "small change" thread...

""Allow me to re-state: No casinos anyone with a brain would gamble in."

Has there been problems? or controversy that I am not aware of?

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8. Re: No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

Hi Lori.....

No problems or controversy. But little chance of winning, either.

Slots and video gaming machines are set to payout a certain percentage of the money put in. In Las Vegas or Atlantic City, most pay at least 90%, and many even more - 95-97%. There is strict government oversight, frequent testing, etc. In Jamaica there's no oversight that I'm aware of. I'd be surprised if their machines payout even 75%.

I'd love to have someone post here who actually won money at one of these resort "casinos".

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9. Re: No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

i don't know the deal with the tourist resort casinos, never used them or even really been in them (i suspect all it takes for them to say they have a casino is to put a couple of those video slot machines in a separate room or even in a corner of their sports bar, that was the case with the Riu *(ROR)...

I do know that the one at Terra Nova was quite a popular little place... all the tables were pretty packed and it wasn't with hotel guests...

i just sat around and drank rum cream in the loungey area (apparently this is a stoosh place to hang out before heading to Quad and as such we had to do it (where's the rolley eyes?) :) )

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10. Re: No gambling, no casinos in Jamaica??

Just don't expect anything like any other casino you have ever been to.

The typical "casino" in Jamaica is a small, dark room in a resort that has a collection of unregulated slot or video machines.

However, as referenced by cebakes above, they are considering legislation that would open Jamaica for the development of "true" casino-resorts in Jamaica.

That Palmyra-related casino-resort would be interesting. The Palmyra was developed (at least in part) by Ritz Carlton.

Personally (and I know this has nothing to do with the topic), I would stay FAR away from mega-casinos in Jamaica. Don't get me wrong...I think they could, IF properly regulated, add a new dimension to Jamaican tourism. I would simply have no interest whatsoever in them.