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Qantas Catering

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Qantas Catering

Following the recent thread re Vegan meals on Qatar I thought this statement from Qantas was interesting:

<<On flights to and from Dubai and Jakarta, Qantas does not serve meals that contain alcohol or pork.>>

Observing that both QF flights to/from Dubai go on to London it would appear that you will have to go all the way without bacon. Surely, if Moslem meals are available as a SPML it is going a bit over the top to make the entire flight pork free. To quote a letter from today's Australian newspaper - "the last time I looked QF was an Australian airline".

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This is kinda weird. I understand cultural sensitivities but bacon and pork can be bought in Dubai. It's not as if Qantas would be breaking some kind of official law or taboo.

They will still be serving alcohol so why not bacon? I'm presuming it's all to do with cutting costs so Halal meals do not have to be specifically catered for.

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It makes perfect sense to me.

When flying to destinations where the majority of the population are muslim, one would assume that a significant number of passengers would also be muslim.

By ensuring that the standard meals do not contain pork or alcohol, fewer people are likely to request special Halal meals and this saves the company money and the FAs time. Special meals are more expensive for the airline and more time consuming to serve.

In particular, Halal and Kosher meals need to be kept quite separate from standard meals so that no possible contamination takes place. They are also required to be served with separate utensils.

I would expect similar restrictions if Qantas flew to Israel.

As to the inclusion of the comment "the last time I looked QF was an Australian airline", how is this relevant?

Qantas is a publicly listed company and anyone can buy shares. The days of a national flag carrier owned by the government are long gone - thank goodness!

Does the OP object if Asian or Italian food is served on Qantas, or is it expected that the menu is restricted to lamingtons and meat pies?

It may well be unintentional, but the comment sounds a bit racist to me.

Edited: 9:34 pm, April 07, 2013
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Hi,

Agree wholly with #2 in that most carriers these days view and make catering decisions within two related "boxes"

The larger, and arguably more relevant box, asks and defines "what catering options do we have that meet our budgeted figures for that sector?"

The smaller box that fits within the first, refines it down further, and asks "within our budget of X, what will be the most suitable given the demographic passenger mix on this sector?"

They do look at the operational side - that's FA time - as #2 is also correct that the more SPMLs there are, the slower the meal service takes..

While that does not, in and of itself, add to their payroll costs, it does add into the time the carrier has to plan for and allow for the overall service to be completed..

Where this issue of an extended meal service planned time will materialize for the carrier is in how and when the required (as most carriers do have) crew rest periods are done..

The longer the meal service runs, the less time you have remaining to do other things in the cabin before you've got to start "breaking" your crew and sending them to their bunks or other areas... This might be things like an after dinner beverage service or even duty free sales..

So, for a host of reasons I can see a compelling case operationally and fiscally, for QF to go this way given how their flying is now structured.

Travel Safe,

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The last time I flew to Israel it was on Air France. I noticed that the regular meal served was, while not certified kosher as far as I could tell, not inappropriate for a person keeping kosher. (Bagel, cream cheese, smoked salmon.) I thought that was very sensible.

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Observing that QF has never flown to Dubai before I find it interesting that people would suggest that a significant number of pax will be Muslim. My guess is that QF's target audience will be Australians heading to Europe. Of the 98 'alliance' flights per week from Oz to Dubai only 14 will be operated by QF, so there are plenty of alternatives if you don't like the QF in-flight product.

I understand the business argument for trying to minimise the number of SPMLs a flight, but I think it might have been prudent to get a feel for numbers before making a generic decision. Perhaps they could introduce a special 'contains pork' meal for those of us who do like bacon.

I just knew someone would throw the 'racist' word at me.

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Had Qantas simply stopped serving pork products onboard and not made any announcements would anyone have noticed? I don't see a lot of post here or elsewhere seeking info about the quality of in-flight bacon.

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Agree with no 7, don't see the big deal. If they have already being flying this route, they would know how many special meals were ordered on average which would have enabled their decision. If not, then possibly it's just the simpler decision to keep costs down,

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9. Re: Qantas Catering

QF and EK code share.

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They dont codeshare all routes/flights.