Beware, seriously suspect security. I've been coming here for 15+ years since it was Carrie and Steph tending bar and it was a safe place to hang out. Sad to see it so different now. Now I got accosted on the public sidewalk going from my vehicle to the bar by a surly guy in an unruly crowd out front the bar. (Seemed he might have actually been security or so chummy with them I couldn't tell). I dropped my glasses ON THE SIDEWALK and he didn't like how close I was to his truck so he mad-dogged me, swearing and threatening me. As I'm recovering from spinal fusion surgery the physical threats were frightening. I told him to f-off, I'm on a public sidewalk and tried to just get to the bar where there is security . But then he stole my glasses and refused to return them, physically threatening me the whole time. I took a picture of his license and threatened to call the cops to get my glasses back. When someone in the crowd finally talked him into giving the glasses back I rushed into the bar where I would at least feel safe with security. However, apparently because I rushed into the bar security made me the problem and jumped on my case. After 15+ years as a regular I gotta feel unsafe (especially because of my fragile medical condition) because of an unruly belligerent crowd out front without supervision

This is THE bar that attracts all the worst people in the area. Too many unpredictable thugs and drug dealers and the entire establishment is decrepit. This place gets the cops visiting it almost every night.