Mount Rinjani National Park
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Reichtmann
Austria16 contributions
Sep 2020
We climbed Rinjani 8 years ago and had great memories of our climbing adventure, so when we heard that rinjani is back open, but could only be booked by an app called e rinjani we were very excited to say the least.
This app only works for Andriod Phones which made a booking difficult to say the least, after securing an old phone and downloading the app i could finaly make a booking. At the moment they only allow one night 2 days with all this Covid Restrictions, which was not ideal but we still went for it.
We booked as Indonesians as me and my friend lived here more then 30 years and have our own KTP and KITAP, after organising our porters via a friend we are all set to go.
The day we arrived in Sembalun we checked into the Hotel next door to the National Park Office, since we wanted to start early the next day we thought we better check in the day before. We had to wait 2,5 hours until some officer finaly came, and thats there the trouble all started. Our Porters were already with us and ready to assist, but as soon as the officer saw as ,and we showed our booking he said it was not valid but will check with his boss.After a while he came back to us and said, because we are foreigners this booking is not valid and we have to book as tourists which is a 150 k a day compare to 5 k for Locals per day. Ok i thought this is a little dicriminating but still Ok as we really wanted to hike this beautiful mountain again. But after we agreed to pay the higher fee he then instisted that all foreigners have to book through a trekking organiser, which we did not need as we booked our own porters and had all our food and gear ready to go. On top of that he also demanded to get another local health certificate which was not mentioned anywhere in the app, we already had to do the covid test were the certifacte was provided according to the new regulations.
After about 10 minutes a trekking oraganizer arrived and the first thing he said was i can help you, but I am expensive 350 USD per person as mentioned on the internet, compare to not even one Dollar what locals would pay. Of course we did not go for his rip off, and left the office immediately. They have no business and all the locals are struggeling due to the earthquake and pandamic. It makes me sad and angry at the same time, sad for the locals as they would really need our salary to survive asit was only there second job all year according to them, and extremely angry at the officals of this nationalpark as they were not willing to help and interested to honor our booking as local residents.They are part of Unesco now, maybe they don t even want any hikers there anymore and they have enough funding already.
So as a foreigner even if you lived in Indonesia for over 30 years and pay your taxes and employee 130 staff, you will never ever be a local in there eyes. This authorties at the office are discriminating to say the least.
We spent our 3 days climbing some surrounding hills, and met some great local people and none of them could understand why we got denied to climb Rinjani. Its a shame because it is a beautiful place but can not be recommended anymore...........thanks for reading it all!
This app only works for Andriod Phones which made a booking difficult to say the least, after securing an old phone and downloading the app i could finaly make a booking. At the moment they only allow one night 2 days with all this Covid Restrictions, which was not ideal but we still went for it.
We booked as Indonesians as me and my friend lived here more then 30 years and have our own KTP and KITAP, after organising our porters via a friend we are all set to go.
The day we arrived in Sembalun we checked into the Hotel next door to the National Park Office, since we wanted to start early the next day we thought we better check in the day before. We had to wait 2,5 hours until some officer finaly came, and thats there the trouble all started. Our Porters were already with us and ready to assist, but as soon as the officer saw as ,and we showed our booking he said it was not valid but will check with his boss.After a while he came back to us and said, because we are foreigners this booking is not valid and we have to book as tourists which is a 150 k a day compare to 5 k for Locals per day. Ok i thought this is a little dicriminating but still Ok as we really wanted to hike this beautiful mountain again. But after we agreed to pay the higher fee he then instisted that all foreigners have to book through a trekking organiser, which we did not need as we booked our own porters and had all our food and gear ready to go. On top of that he also demanded to get another local health certificate which was not mentioned anywhere in the app, we already had to do the covid test were the certifacte was provided according to the new regulations.
After about 10 minutes a trekking oraganizer arrived and the first thing he said was i can help you, but I am expensive 350 USD per person as mentioned on the internet, compare to not even one Dollar what locals would pay. Of course we did not go for his rip off, and left the office immediately. They have no business and all the locals are struggeling due to the earthquake and pandamic. It makes me sad and angry at the same time, sad for the locals as they would really need our salary to survive asit was only there second job all year according to them, and extremely angry at the officals of this nationalpark as they were not willing to help and interested to honor our booking as local residents.They are part of Unesco now, maybe they don t even want any hikers there anymore and they have enough funding already.
So as a foreigner even if you lived in Indonesia for over 30 years and pay your taxes and employee 130 staff, you will never ever be a local in there eyes. This authorties at the office are discriminating to say the least.
We spent our 3 days climbing some surrounding hills, and met some great local people and none of them could understand why we got denied to climb Rinjani. Its a shame because it is a beautiful place but can not be recommended anymore...........thanks for reading it all!
Written September 14, 2020
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sflorence
Amsterdam, The Netherlands6 contributions
Feb 2020 • Solo
Don’t go in the rainy season! Some operators will still sell you the tour on the streets and say it’s possible, that this is a lie, but please don’t trust them. The weather is far too unpredictable and there are frequent landslides when there’s a lot of rainfall. Those operators just want to make money and unfortunately don’t care about your safety/ecological impact while the park is officially closed. Must be beautiful and amazing to visit in the dry season, though.
Written March 13, 2020
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Alejandra F.
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May 2024 • Couples
The truth is that it is extremely sad and disappointing to see the amount of garbage and cigarette butts in the place. There's no point in going to see those spectacular views if next to you there are papers with poop and a lot of trash.
I honestly don't understand why the government or even the agencies that take tourists there don't do anything about it.
Another thing I didn't like is that there were TOO many people... it should be much more limited and charge more so that there is more control over waste and so that you don't feel like you are walking in an amusement park instead of the mountain...
Lastly, it bothers me a lot that people play their music on a speaker, making us all listen to the horrible things they play... that they use their headphones and let us enjoy the hike... if you are really a nature lover, I would look for another place in where they take care of it and it can be enjoyed.
I honestly don't understand why the government or even the agencies that take tourists there don't do anything about it.
Another thing I didn't like is that there were TOO many people... it should be much more limited and charge more so that there is more control over waste and so that you don't feel like you are walking in an amusement park instead of the mountain...
Lastly, it bothers me a lot that people play their music on a speaker, making us all listen to the horrible things they play... that they use their headphones and let us enjoy the hike... if you are really a nature lover, I would look for another place in where they take care of it and it can be enjoyed.
Written May 24, 2024
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Asta A
2 contributions
Jul 2018 • Family
I just came home from the Rinjani Treck, and I must say I am furious. I’m sad and I’m mad and I wish I’d never put my money in a business, that destroys our nature. Everywhere is plastic lying around. Not just small scraps here and there. I am talking HEAPS and MOUNTAINS and big areas, where every square inch has a pieces of trash just.
Bottles, caps, plastic bags, gum-wrappers, noodle flavour packaging, noodle cups, toilet paper, band aids, fruit wrappings, empty soap bottles - the mountain is drowning.
Every morning, after sleeping and eating in a landfill, I cleaned our camp completely, but to clean the entire mountain is already impossible. It’s been destroyed forever. Why? Because most tour companies don’t care, the local authorities don’t care and the tourists don’t care. But if you care: Stay away and spend your money on something, that don’t ruin our nature.
Bottles, caps, plastic bags, gum-wrappers, noodle flavour packaging, noodle cups, toilet paper, band aids, fruit wrappings, empty soap bottles - the mountain is drowning.
Every morning, after sleeping and eating in a landfill, I cleaned our camp completely, but to clean the entire mountain is already impossible. It’s been destroyed forever. Why? Because most tour companies don’t care, the local authorities don’t care and the tourists don’t care. But if you care: Stay away and spend your money on something, that don’t ruin our nature.
Written August 8, 2018
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Globetrotter822014
Antwerp, Belgium53 contributions
May 2014 • Couples
If you consider yourself as someone who has respect for nature and your environment and you want to go on doing that, please read this.
On a round trip through different Indonesian islands, my boyfriend and I decided to go on the 3 day - 2 nights trekking tour on the Rinjani: up to the crater and the summit, into the crater to the lake and back out of the crater and down the volcano. We look back on it with very mixed feelings: it was surely an experience, but today, we are convinced that we can enjoy European (for example) national parks much better for its proper management rules and respect of nature!
We booked with Rinjani Trekking Excellence which was everything except an excellent idea: it was terrible! Our guide, called As, was absolutely not experienced at all. He did pretend he was, hiding his poor knowledge of the environment and any guiding skills for a few hours by saying things such as the fact that we didn't look very fit to do the trek, or that we were too slow. Right. Read further...
But when we arrived around 10PM on the crater rim (while we should have arrived there around 6PM because of endless departure delay because of our guide) it was clear to us we could have been more of a guide to him, even if we do not have a lot of trekking experience: the last hours of the trek, he didn't stop complaining about the cold weather, the fact he was tired, that he needed a break. At a moment he even laid down, saying he needed a nap. Oh really? He was moreover completely disoriented, making us walk more hours than we should have in the dark because he didn't have proper lighting and couldn't find his way... He surely put us in difficult situation, making quite a normal trek experience a real danger. We really felt like we were having a camp with a difficult adolescent searching for directions. NOT what we were looking for.
Putting up the tent at the crater rim in the dark: you wish to wake up with a splendid lake view, you do wake up with a lake view... surrounded by garbage. We we're not only disappointed by this, but also very sad to notice that all the guides were just throwing everything there, not even considering for one moment taking their garbage with them. Our very smart guide even had the super intelligence to tell us the monkeys were going to take care of the garbage he left! Sure, monkeys will eat plastic and gas cans. We also saw other guides burning plastic. We were so disgusted by this disrespect for nature and the stupidity of the local guides and the child that was "guiding" us, that we decided to stop our trip here and to go back down.
Today we are aware of the fact that going up the Rinjani does affect the local environment. The Indonesian government has to do something there in order to only offer access to decent guides who care about nature and will take care of garbage, share real knowledge about the place and make tourists attentive to the beautiful environment they are completely ruining.
We hope this review helps you as we would have appreciated reading a honest contribution as ours before leaving.
On a round trip through different Indonesian islands, my boyfriend and I decided to go on the 3 day - 2 nights trekking tour on the Rinjani: up to the crater and the summit, into the crater to the lake and back out of the crater and down the volcano. We look back on it with very mixed feelings: it was surely an experience, but today, we are convinced that we can enjoy European (for example) national parks much better for its proper management rules and respect of nature!
We booked with Rinjani Trekking Excellence which was everything except an excellent idea: it was terrible! Our guide, called As, was absolutely not experienced at all. He did pretend he was, hiding his poor knowledge of the environment and any guiding skills for a few hours by saying things such as the fact that we didn't look very fit to do the trek, or that we were too slow. Right. Read further...
But when we arrived around 10PM on the crater rim (while we should have arrived there around 6PM because of endless departure delay because of our guide) it was clear to us we could have been more of a guide to him, even if we do not have a lot of trekking experience: the last hours of the trek, he didn't stop complaining about the cold weather, the fact he was tired, that he needed a break. At a moment he even laid down, saying he needed a nap. Oh really? He was moreover completely disoriented, making us walk more hours than we should have in the dark because he didn't have proper lighting and couldn't find his way... He surely put us in difficult situation, making quite a normal trek experience a real danger. We really felt like we were having a camp with a difficult adolescent searching for directions. NOT what we were looking for.
Putting up the tent at the crater rim in the dark: you wish to wake up with a splendid lake view, you do wake up with a lake view... surrounded by garbage. We we're not only disappointed by this, but also very sad to notice that all the guides were just throwing everything there, not even considering for one moment taking their garbage with them. Our very smart guide even had the super intelligence to tell us the monkeys were going to take care of the garbage he left! Sure, monkeys will eat plastic and gas cans. We also saw other guides burning plastic. We were so disgusted by this disrespect for nature and the stupidity of the local guides and the child that was "guiding" us, that we decided to stop our trip here and to go back down.
Today we are aware of the fact that going up the Rinjani does affect the local environment. The Indonesian government has to do something there in order to only offer access to decent guides who care about nature and will take care of garbage, share real knowledge about the place and make tourists attentive to the beautiful environment they are completely ruining.
We hope this review helps you as we would have appreciated reading a honest contribution as ours before leaving.
Written June 9, 2014
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Splodge55
Cape Town Central, South Africa135 contributions
Jul 2017 • Couples
I wish I could give it a 0. Rinjani National Park should be ashamed of themselves. Rinjani is disgusting with trash and human waste an it detracted from the beauty of what it has to offer. I was prepared for a lot of trash on the mountain (which is prevalent in huge quantities) but I was not prepared for the amount of human body waste and toilet paper everywhere. At each camp site trekking companies dig small temporary latrines which they hardly ever cover up after themselves, so when the next company pulls in, there are latrines everywhere. You food gets prepped and served over them, you sleep over them, you sit and walk over them. You cannot step of the main path without stepping into human poo! I work is hospitals and deal with a lot of human waste, I am no ninny. But Rinjani is disgusting! The national park makes to effort to maintain existing long drops, build new ones or clean the mountain, despite the 300K rupiah entrance fee per tourist try receive. Rinjani National Park is an embarrassment to Indonesia.
Written July 20, 2017
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caroka
Canton of Zurich, Switzerland88 contributions
Sep 2014 • Friends
Lombok, you ought to be ashamed. I have climbed quite a few peaks and never have I been so dismally disappointed as climbing the one in my former back yard. Having lived on Bali for a few years, it was always my dream to climb that beautiful peak that I flew past so often. Well, you have LOTS of work ahead of you. To call yourself a National Park…is an insult to the true, authentic, caring and REAL National Parks in the world. I suggest the administration go check out some of these parks. The upward scramble was dirty, dusty, disgusting, overloaded with too many tourists, trash and stained toilet paper indicating public, outdoor squatting WC's. "Follow the trash" is the way up for lack of signs. I suggest you close the "national park" aka "public dump", do a massive clean up and get those sleeping rangers on their fancy dirt bikes actually DO something, such as put up signs showing altitudes, clean the trails, build steps into areas where needed, cut roots that make us trip, install proper toilet stations, etc. Through our small group of 3 people, we have already amassed more than 200 negative comments of "don't do it". Not that you need more tourists, if anything, you should instigate a per diem maximum of visitors. Have a look at Kinabalu. They know how to do it properly. Were it not for the desire to reach that peak, having already paid the trip in full and being in good company, we would have turned around at the 1st stop. We reached the peak but cancelled the remaining days at the crater lake due to being so dismally shocked and disappointed.
Written October 22, 2014
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Crejtur
Marsascala, Malta36 contributions
Aug 2015 • Couples
We would definitely recommend the 3D 2N trip - a tough challenge but very rewarding, crossing various terrain types. Mount Rinjani has the potential to be a world-class attraction...but it's ruined by rubbish. Not just the occasional wrapper...the entire trail is full of rubbish. It's like walking on a landfill at times. There's no systematic disposal system - not even rubbish bins to facilitate collection - other than burning piles of rubbish. Our tent on the ridge was literally 10 metres away from a fire composed mainly of plastic, spewing dioxin and awful-smelling smoke right into our tent. I've posted a few photos to show. I honestly can't recommend this unless it's cleaned up. And the sad thing is that there is no incentive to change things...
Written September 12, 2015
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Mad_man_on_lose
Oslo, Norway30 contributions
This is indonesia's second highest volcano. Jiking Gunung garbage is no picnic or fun, not everyones piece of cake.
It involves lots of planning, hiring guides, porters, stamina and sweat "iron heart".
Reaching top i was disappointed rather than excited, surrounded by Mount Garbage and nothing. The vast rim do have a jaw dropping view of the sacred carter lake (an importan pilgrim site) and a smoking active mibi core of baru below.
I would strongly protest with the authorities to look into the Gurung Garbage and impose restrictions and fines for those who make a mess.
To alk those hikers, be ready for Gurung Garbage.........
It involves lots of planning, hiring guides, porters, stamina and sweat "iron heart".
Reaching top i was disappointed rather than excited, surrounded by Mount Garbage and nothing. The vast rim do have a jaw dropping view of the sacred carter lake (an importan pilgrim site) and a smoking active mibi core of baru below.
I would strongly protest with the authorities to look into the Gurung Garbage and impose restrictions and fines for those who make a mess.
To alk those hikers, be ready for Gurung Garbage.........
Written June 16, 2014
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Annabel L
3 contributions
Jan 2016 • Couples
First of all we booked our trip with Trekking Rinjani and it turned out to be Restu, which has many bad reviews so we weren't too happy with it. We decided to give them benefit of the doubt but only paid half in advance and he would get the other half at the end, if everything was to our wishes, which we did. We have to admit, the trip was ok. Just don't expect too much of it, for instance the guide is friendly, but not really supportive as he did not care about the girl who hurt her knee badly during the track. Including the price was a transfer to Gili Meno, as we wanted, on the day we came back from Rinjani. We were told that the last boat was going 5.30pm and that we would easily make it there on time. After we had collected all our stuff we left behind in the hotel we left by taxi at 4.40pm. Usman, owner of Restu, told us he hoped we would make it on time. The time of arrival at the harbour was 5.45pm, so we had still hope that maybe the boat was delayed. But than we were told that the last boat to Gili Meno was at 5.00pm. Usman was lying to us and he knew when we took that taxi we weren't gonna make it on time as it is at least a 1hour drive to the harbour we were told. It even became worse when we called Usman and he told us we would have to pay half of the price to get the speedboat to Meno, or otherwise we would have to wait until the next day (we already paid our hotel on Meno and could not cancel anymore). We agreed on the deal as we wanted to go to Meno so bad. The taxi driver had to pay the other half in name of Usman, but didn't have enough money so it turned out that we had to pay more. As the taxi driver leaves, the one who offered us the speedboat tells us it is not going and we have to pay a higher price to go with another boat. So pissed off by that time, we didn't agree on that and eventually arranged that we could come with a family to Meno, if we would pay the same price as we had to for the speedboat. We arrived at Meno around 9pm instead of 5.30pm This gave our tip a very bad ending as we feeled deceived, and confirmed all the bad reviews we read on the internet about Restu. So here is another one, to confirm what the ones before us told.
Written January 20, 2016
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Hi Mark,
How long is each tour? km
which tour operator did you use?
thank you
Written February 27, 2018
Do you have to trek to the mountains or could I just visit the waterfall and see the views?
Written December 28, 2016
Mount Rinjani have a route. many tourists who want to hike there. For your information you can contact 35ltrekking because they are highly recommended for climbing the mountain in Indonesia.
Written December 29, 2016
Hi, Can you please tell me how you organised to do the trek and how much this all cost? I am looking at doing a 2 day 1 night hike with my friend on the 18th November.
Thank you :-)
Regards
Brenda
Written September 14, 2015
Hi,
I really strongly recommend using Rinani Women Guides. They had the best prices, the nicest people and the best service of all the local companies we tried working with. They also make a huge effort compared to other groups when it comes to cleaning Rinjani, by bringing down the waste as well as organizing cleaning crews to climb up and bring the existing waste back down. Speak to Katni.
Mobile : +628175723315
Written September 22, 2015
Couldn't agree with you more about some of the treacherous slopes and poor barrier maintenance especially between the crater rim and crater lake.
Written May 30, 2015
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