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Zvisha S
1 contribution
Mar 2020 • Solo
I was there when Tan Dammavidu (the English monk) was giving teachings, and it was amassing and life changing.
I came back and the place was not the same. I left after 2 days. Tai chi and guided meditations instead of deep philosophy. If you are into that thing, you will enjoy it, but I hated every moment. The level of teachings I got you can find in your neighborhood Yoga place - definitely not something to go to Thailand for :(
I am happy that I was there in the times before they 'renovated' it's program. Anicha :(
I came back and the place was not the same. I left after 2 days. Tai chi and guided meditations instead of deep philosophy. If you are into that thing, you will enjoy it, but I hated every moment. The level of teachings I got you can find in your neighborhood Yoga place - definitely not something to go to Thailand for :(
I am happy that I was there in the times before they 'renovated' it's program. Anicha :(
Written February 18, 2021
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Pipo P
1 contribution
Jul 2022
On the positive side:
The nature is beautiful, the hot springs really enjoyable, food is great and the 10-day set up really nice. Most people do make progress and will be happy to have endured it afterwards. Dormitories and so on are very simple but at least you have your own room/cell. This time there were around 40 participants so a fairly small group. The small shop for mosquito repellent etc is very helpful.
Besides that:
It is focused on beginner level and not for advanced meditators with a lot of walking meditation to make it easier for everyone. Still, don’t expect too much detailed insights on the specific steps but more generic guidance with a lot of buddhism-related introductions
Its quite noisy. Morning talk, dhamma talk, food reflection, chanting, yoga / relaxation instructions are a lot for a silent retreat and disturb the calming mind. Due to the constant change between sitting and walking meditation there is also a lot of movement. Bring earplugs
Instead of yoga mats there are straw mats (more dangerous than helpful), instead of sleeping mats there are „wooden mats“ and „wooden pillows“ (strange thinking that softer mats for participants are luxurious while for coordinators/staff they are ok) and the meditation cushions have seen much better days. Bring your own stuff
Yoga instructions are focused on the course coordinator and his needs - you more or less follow that. Yoga was 105 minutes a day.
Day 10 was really a lost day due to how the program was set up with day 9 as the „marathon“ meditation day
Really not working:
The surprising „working meditation“ on day 10 is a terrible idea! We were expected to shovel sand for a new Wat Suan Mokh building that is even outside of the retreat areal. They probably just wanted to save some money and used us to do the work. This was announced on the afternoon itself and communicated as a meditation exercise and not as a humble request. So much for the noble spirit
May Wat Suan Mokh learn from its mistakes
The nature is beautiful, the hot springs really enjoyable, food is great and the 10-day set up really nice. Most people do make progress and will be happy to have endured it afterwards. Dormitories and so on are very simple but at least you have your own room/cell. This time there were around 40 participants so a fairly small group. The small shop for mosquito repellent etc is very helpful.
Besides that:
It is focused on beginner level and not for advanced meditators with a lot of walking meditation to make it easier for everyone. Still, don’t expect too much detailed insights on the specific steps but more generic guidance with a lot of buddhism-related introductions
Its quite noisy. Morning talk, dhamma talk, food reflection, chanting, yoga / relaxation instructions are a lot for a silent retreat and disturb the calming mind. Due to the constant change between sitting and walking meditation there is also a lot of movement. Bring earplugs
Instead of yoga mats there are straw mats (more dangerous than helpful), instead of sleeping mats there are „wooden mats“ and „wooden pillows“ (strange thinking that softer mats for participants are luxurious while for coordinators/staff they are ok) and the meditation cushions have seen much better days. Bring your own stuff
Yoga instructions are focused on the course coordinator and his needs - you more or less follow that. Yoga was 105 minutes a day.
Day 10 was really a lost day due to how the program was set up with day 9 as the „marathon“ meditation day
Really not working:
The surprising „working meditation“ on day 10 is a terrible idea! We were expected to shovel sand for a new Wat Suan Mokh building that is even outside of the retreat areal. They probably just wanted to save some money and used us to do the work. This was announced on the afternoon itself and communicated as a meditation exercise and not as a humble request. So much for the noble spirit
May Wat Suan Mokh learn from its mistakes
Written August 14, 2022
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LoJaco
Trento, Italy40 contributions
Jun 2020
I had attended the retreat in June 2019, looking for a safe place to practice deep meditation, nothing else.
Food, bed, hot springs and landscape are beautiful.
I did not read the reviews before my stay as I did not want to have expectations, but maybe I should have.
It is not silent, at all. As many other participants wrote, you hardly find a moment to meditate without some background noise.
Felt more like a place of constrainment, more than meditation.
Food, bed, hot springs and landscape are beautiful.
I did not read the reviews before my stay as I did not want to have expectations, but maybe I should have.
It is not silent, at all. As many other participants wrote, you hardly find a moment to meditate without some background noise.
Felt more like a place of constrainment, more than meditation.
Written May 20, 2021
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Giorgio F
1 contribution
Mar 2016 • Couples
i went and on the second days i noticed that all roofs are made with asbestos sheets and they collect rain water which is then filtered and used in cooking and as drinking water. Some of these roofs look pretty old. Water running off these asbestos roofs, along with the sun, abrade over time the panels, carrying minuscule pits of asbestos and depositing them in the drinking water. Not healthy. Maybe i got paranoid, but on the day 5 i escaped. I am sorry cause the course was interesting. But I believe the place maybe polluted. While i was there some workers were putting up a new roof and cutting and making holes in the asbestos sheets with no masks and there are tons of asbestos roofs there. I just imagined how much toxic dust has fallen around the park while they were installing the roofs. I know in thailand asbestos roofs go for the majority, but i do not want to drink water from these. I am sorry also cause i did not say anything to the monastery management, i thought i would inform them later (cause i am sure they ignore the possible danger and the pollution that these roofs will create once they will be replaced cause too old), but there is no email.
Written April 30, 2016
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Thank you so much for your feedback. Since the health of both our participants and staffs here are our first priority, we will look into this matter regarding our drinking water as you have suggested. We will report back with result we have found or any improvement we made as soon as possible. And if we have cause you any concern during your stay with us here, we sincerely apologize.
Thank you so much for your honest feedback,
Suanmokkh IDH
Written October 1, 2018
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Cecile D
1 contribution
Jan 2019 • Solo
I wanted to share with you my last meditation in January 2019 .
I came 6 times in this beautiful place , the first time was in 2011 january but I did come back since 2014.
When I did my first interview this year with the Thaï lady , she told me that there was a new restructuration .
And what a "disappointment" I lived during all this retreat ..
It’s not a silent meditatation retreat anymore, so many talks and individual comments broke this beautiful atmosphere…
It starts very early in the morning with a very long talk and a guiding meditation…. instead of letting the silent settle down slowly…especially at this time.
We finally meditate in silence for 15 minutes only …..
then…it continues before each meals with a very loud speech over a microphone to teach us the way Bouddha used to take his meal (it’s interesting but really not at this moment ..and not in this context) .
About the Dhamma talks, it used to be very active with Tan Dhammavidu but this time it’s was difficult to be concentrated all the time with the tapes of Bouddadassa Bikkhu talks .
The chanting used to be optional, it was this time obligatory. It will have been ok if we only have to chant but it was more about comments than chanting…
The best day was the 9th day….. peaceful , silence , presence , no talks, no comments, just the present moment …..
During all the year, it is difficult to find silence in our life, the media are more and more important, and it was such a wonderful opportunity to know that such a place like Suan Mokh existed and that we could escape from our noisy world to pay more attention about our mind and the way it works.
I have had a wonderful experiences over this place and thanks to the precious silence and it helps me a lot in my behavior.
I will have a proposition to make, why don’t you organize two halls of meditation, one is always free near the pond for the people who like to meditate without talks and noise and the big one for the one who need more explanation …?????
I feel sad because I am not sure I would like to come again in your new conditions.Please let me know how you feel,
I know that I am not the only person who feel the same way, I did not dare to tell you this when I finish my meditation that is why I wrote to you today but I read the comment in Trip Advisor and I know that people would like to find Suan Mock as it used to be.
Silence is sacred, please don’t waste it …..
I came 6 times in this beautiful place , the first time was in 2011 january but I did come back since 2014.
When I did my first interview this year with the Thaï lady , she told me that there was a new restructuration .
And what a "disappointment" I lived during all this retreat ..
It’s not a silent meditatation retreat anymore, so many talks and individual comments broke this beautiful atmosphere…
It starts very early in the morning with a very long talk and a guiding meditation…. instead of letting the silent settle down slowly…especially at this time.
We finally meditate in silence for 15 minutes only …..
then…it continues before each meals with a very loud speech over a microphone to teach us the way Bouddha used to take his meal (it’s interesting but really not at this moment ..and not in this context) .
About the Dhamma talks, it used to be very active with Tan Dhammavidu but this time it’s was difficult to be concentrated all the time with the tapes of Bouddadassa Bikkhu talks .
The chanting used to be optional, it was this time obligatory. It will have been ok if we only have to chant but it was more about comments than chanting…
The best day was the 9th day….. peaceful , silence , presence , no talks, no comments, just the present moment …..
During all the year, it is difficult to find silence in our life, the media are more and more important, and it was such a wonderful opportunity to know that such a place like Suan Mokh existed and that we could escape from our noisy world to pay more attention about our mind and the way it works.
I have had a wonderful experiences over this place and thanks to the precious silence and it helps me a lot in my behavior.
I will have a proposition to make, why don’t you organize two halls of meditation, one is always free near the pond for the people who like to meditate without talks and noise and the big one for the one who need more explanation …?????
I feel sad because I am not sure I would like to come again in your new conditions.Please let me know how you feel,
I know that I am not the only person who feel the same way, I did not dare to tell you this when I finish my meditation that is why I wrote to you today but I read the comment in Trip Advisor and I know that people would like to find Suan Mock as it used to be.
Silence is sacred, please don’t waste it …..
Written February 9, 2019
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Huw C
Centurion, South Africa150 contributions
Nov 2016 • Solo
My first retreat to further explore Buddhism and meditation which provided these to me in a structured easy-to-understand way without feeling overwhelmed by this totally new experience. Learning the essential meditation techniques form the crux of the retreat in several different ways - sitting meditation, walking meditation, standing meditation, chanting - in a format honed over 30 years with around 1000 participants each year. The meditation sessions of about 45-60 minutes each are interspersed with talks by monks and lay people, yoga/tai chi exercises, hot spring baths and basic cleaning chores in the most beautiful surroundings with wide spaces of parkland, trees, birds and ponds. The evening chanting sessions provided a welcome spot of light relief and good humour with the monk Tan Medhi. An outstanding memory is the evening walking meditation bare footed on cool grass around the ponds under magnificent night skies full of stars. And the silent hot springs in darkness with starlight and fireflies, magical.
We had about 80 people in November, mostly <30 but plenty of older folk like me, from all walks of life. The drop out rate was about 10 folk. For us oldies for whom sitting on the floor for meditation is physically painful it is permitted to sit on wooden boxes or chairs. I slept wonderfully on the straw mat (I took a yoga mat with me as well) and the wooden pillow is fantastic, all neck/shoulder aches, pains and stresses disappeared and I shall buy a wooden pillow now! Two vegetarian meals a day worried me beforehand but I never felt hungry once; good food, big helpings. Take lots of mosquitoe repellant, basic toiletries including laundry powder can be bought on site. A stunning experience.
We had about 80 people in November, mostly <30 but plenty of older folk like me, from all walks of life. The drop out rate was about 10 folk. For us oldies for whom sitting on the floor for meditation is physically painful it is permitted to sit on wooden boxes or chairs. I slept wonderfully on the straw mat (I took a yoga mat with me as well) and the wooden pillow is fantastic, all neck/shoulder aches, pains and stresses disappeared and I shall buy a wooden pillow now! Two vegetarian meals a day worried me beforehand but I never felt hungry once; good food, big helpings. Take lots of mosquitoe repellant, basic toiletries including laundry powder can be bought on site. A stunning experience.
Written December 12, 2016
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Paglaom_Hostel
General Luna, Philippines22 contributions
Nov 2015 • Solo
This retreat is a 10 days silent buddhist retreat. You live in very simple conditions, eat vegan food and following a strict daily routine. They combine sitting and walking meditation and the retreat is very focused on buddhism. For my interest it felt a bit too religious sometimes so I focused more on my own personal development. There is no way you can prepare yourself for this retreat, a least not mentally. Just know that a lot of emotions and thought will pop up and there is no were to escape from them, you just have to sit quietly and deal with it ;) But once you figure out how, it is life-changing. The monks, staff and volunteers are making an amazing job preparing, organising and give personal support to the participants. I highly recommend people to do this retreat, especially if you, like I were, is tired of your own behaviour in anyway. During this week, you will start questioning everything you believe in or use to feel/do. Scary but amazing.
Written November 16, 2015
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BJ L
Sydney, Australia2 contributions
Feb 2018 • Solo
This place used to be great. I have been to 6 retreats here over the years. Now endless talking by participants, its more like a backpackers than a meditation centre. They changed to, too many talks by the people who run it, which were not talks by monks but some airy fairy westerners. This will be the last time I meditate here. Which saddens me because it was great before when the German guy was running it and when the English Monk was giving talks and the Thai women would do the chanting and it was silent. Now it just feels like a hippy cult run by westerners.
Written December 19, 2018
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rexracerx
Berkeley, CA2 contributions
Sep 2018 • Solo
There are 11 or 12 talks a day, ranging in length from 15 minutes to over an hour.
To compare, the Zen tradition, Soto and Rinzai, almost always offers only one talk a day.. Goenka Vipassana is 3, at most.
At Suan Mokkh, there are now 5 different speakers, with most of them offering multiple talks per day.. The woman leading the retreat offers perhaps 5 or 6 talks, including guided meditation periods..
This place has really changed.. There is now a Thai Chi instruction period every morning.. There is a teaching before every meal, concerning how Buddhists view eating -- so 18 teachings, total, about food (the 9th day is silent).. The morning reading is now a complete teaching (usually a reading or Rev. Buddadhasa. the founder of Suan Mokkh) plus a talk about the reading, followed by guided meditation..
There are two periods, per day, of recorded instruction.
Between 4:30 AM and breakfast, there is only about one half hour of silence, and the rest of the day continues in this manner.
There are moments during the retreat when the same woman speaks for over 3 hours straight, pausing only to ring a bell, indicating a change of topic, or venue.
It is difficult to meditate through so many talks, but it is possible..
I stayed in the meditation hall during the tai chi period, for example, and.I often sat through the walking periods.
I.have done perhaps 12 or 15 retreats here, over the years, and am.saddened and amazed at how this could happen...
Many of.the talks, pradoxically, concern the wonders and opportunities of silence. Most of.them simply employ the most common phrases you hear in Buddhist settings: "breathe in, breathe out..... forget about the past, do not worry about the future..... just be.... not too tense, not too loose..." and so on..
All.the guided meditations are like this.
About a decade ago I overheard a monk here explaining that beginners need more talks, or they get bored or impatient.. This was back when there were about half as.many.. Personally I had considered those 7 or so talks a day as excessive.
But now, there is really almost no time to.sit in silence.. It can't be more than 2 hours a day, total, if you follow all the scheduled activities.
To compare, the Zen tradition, Soto and Rinzai, almost always offers only one talk a day.. Goenka Vipassana is 3, at most.
At Suan Mokkh, there are now 5 different speakers, with most of them offering multiple talks per day.. The woman leading the retreat offers perhaps 5 or 6 talks, including guided meditation periods..
This place has really changed.. There is now a Thai Chi instruction period every morning.. There is a teaching before every meal, concerning how Buddhists view eating -- so 18 teachings, total, about food (the 9th day is silent).. The morning reading is now a complete teaching (usually a reading or Rev. Buddadhasa. the founder of Suan Mokkh) plus a talk about the reading, followed by guided meditation..
There are two periods, per day, of recorded instruction.
Between 4:30 AM and breakfast, there is only about one half hour of silence, and the rest of the day continues in this manner.
There are moments during the retreat when the same woman speaks for over 3 hours straight, pausing only to ring a bell, indicating a change of topic, or venue.
It is difficult to meditate through so many talks, but it is possible..
I stayed in the meditation hall during the tai chi period, for example, and.I often sat through the walking periods.
I.have done perhaps 12 or 15 retreats here, over the years, and am.saddened and amazed at how this could happen...
Many of.the talks, pradoxically, concern the wonders and opportunities of silence. Most of.them simply employ the most common phrases you hear in Buddhist settings: "breathe in, breathe out..... forget about the past, do not worry about the future..... just be.... not too tense, not too loose..." and so on..
All.the guided meditations are like this.
About a decade ago I overheard a monk here explaining that beginners need more talks, or they get bored or impatient.. This was back when there were about half as.many.. Personally I had considered those 7 or so talks a day as excessive.
But now, there is really almost no time to.sit in silence.. It can't be more than 2 hours a day, total, if you follow all the scheduled activities.
Written September 13, 2018
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Thank you very much for your feedback. Currently, our management team is undergoing a major restructuring. Some of the staffs wish for more talks while many, like you, believe the course has way too many talks. Hence, your feedback will be extremely critical for our discussion and how we move forward in the future. So thank you for spending your valuable time to give us this honest feedback. We will do our best to incorporate and voice your opinion in our meetings as best way we can. If you would like to make an official complaint you may send us an email at suanmokkhidh@gmail.com
Best,
Suan Mokkh IDH
Written October 1, 2018
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icouldiwill
Istanbul87 contributions
Dec 2014 • Solo
I did this retreat many times over the years. The method they teach is a basic breathing awareness suitable for beginners. The schedule is also easy to manage, with no more than 1 hour compulsory sitting meditation, although this may not be sufficient for advanced practitioners.
The setting on the other hand is absolutely amazing. A very tranquil garden, big open meditation halls, the best food you can get in a retreat and to top it all the natural hot springs. One reason I keep going back there is the healing effect of silence, meditation and daily dip in the hot spring combined. Very highly recommended.
The setting on the other hand is absolutely amazing. A very tranquil garden, big open meditation halls, the best food you can get in a retreat and to top it all the natural hot springs. One reason I keep going back there is the healing effect of silence, meditation and daily dip in the hot spring combined. Very highly recommended.
Written May 5, 2015
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Does any one know if you need to be vaccinated to attend? Thank you
Written June 23, 2022
Suanmokkh-IDH
Chaiya, Thailand
ลงรถไฟที่สถานีไชยา ครับผม, หลังจากนั้นนั่งรถสองแถวสีฟ้ามาลงที่หน้าวัดสวนโมกข์ เรียกแท็กซี่จากหน้าวัดต่อเข้ามาในสวนโมกข์นานาชาติ ครับผม
ไม่ทราบว่าจะมาเวลาไหนครับ เพราะรถสองแถวจากแถวสถานีรถไฟไชยา จะหมดเวลาบ่ายสามโมงเย็น, ถ้ารถสองแถวหมดแล้วสามารถเรียกรถมอเตอไซค์รับจ้างหน้าสถานีให้มาส่งที่ในสวนโมกข์นานาชาติเลยก็ได้ครับ
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Written July 24, 2019
Has anyone received any feedback on your recent experience with the new structure at Wat Suan Mokkh? I am primarily interested in a silent retreat and will have to avoid Wat Suan Mokkh if there is this much speaking taking place now.
Written February 20, 2019
Agree. It is sad to say that Khun Tai is not qualified to teach. It's nothing offensive. We are not primary school students, it would be much better if she can stop talking and singing.
Written August 21, 2019
It was originally quieter. But it has changed. Still, many people seem to enjoy it.
Written August 6, 2019
What is the best way to reach Thailand from the US also what is the best time of year to visit to avoid hot weather and/or rainy seasons? Thank you for any assistance.
Written June 25, 2018
Ajahn Poh has an associated place on Ko Samui called Dipabhavan. It is any quieter?
Written August 6, 2019
I read there is a hot spring you can dip in during the retreat. What are you supposed to wear then? Or not wear anything? Are men area and women area separate? I thought at temples, we are not supposed to exposed much of our skin... Please help, I dont really know what to pack...
Written December 10, 2017
Might be too late of a reply for you. People wear a sarong for bathing (communal bathroom with a big tank to scoop water out of) and hotspring. There are separate houses and hot springs for men and women. You can buy clothing items outside the main temple. You can buy clothes, sarong and some other basic necessities at the course site as well, but the shop is only open for very limited hours.
Written February 1, 2018
Gostava de ir fazer retiro em janeiro como ir de krabi para lá? em que transporte?
Written December 2, 2017
Hi, I have a question to people who have done this retreat and the one from dhamma org website How does it compare? For example where you meditate more, where is harder etc?
To be honest I am getting an impression that this course here is touristy more for back packers who got tired with constant parties and decided to play spiritual beings. Of course once they finish course (if finish) they quickly stop mediate.
Written May 9, 2017
Marnii_J
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
There is walking meditation at Suan Mokh but not for dhammaorg or Goenka style vipassana retreats. Both are challenging and both will give you 'results' after 10 days. Some people tend to think sitting the entire time to be more 'legit' but I found that it has no bearing on the ability to lead to insight and understanding. Depends on the person. I'm not a serious practitioner so I can't comment on whether one is better than another as far as a life long 4 hours a day minimum practice goes ala monk life. I meditate 20 minutes a day most days and go on a retreat once a year. Teachers discourage shopping around but I think it's fine for beginners to shop around to find the instructions that jibe with them.
In terms of creature comforts - as stark as retreats come - the Goenka retreat I went to at least had a thin mattress while at Suan Mokh it is literally a concrete platform with a thin woven mat. On the upside, Suan Mokh has a hot spring to soothe achey muscles and the meditation hall has a sand floor which makes sitting less painful. The Suan Mokh retreat is run very strictly so in every sense it is as 'proper' as they come. The retreatants do tend to be mostly backpackers but the environment is true to any 10 day silent retreat that will satisfy any serious meditator. And anyway, I'm happy that people just come even if it is out of curiousity. It might spark a more devoted search for truth in the most unlikely person so the number of tourists don't bother me as long as they follow the rules, which they tend to anyway.
Hope this helps. May the light of wisdom arise effortlessly in you! Good luck :)
Written September 20, 2017
I'm just curious what people think about the rain water being collected from asbestos roofs? I guess this was done for years in Thailand, but most of the populous stopped this practice about 35 years ago. I'm a bit nervous about drinking that. :P
Written April 28, 2017
Aha, well... having lived in Thailand for 5 years, none of what you're describing would come as a surprise. Inevitably, pure ideas and practices that come from teachers like Gautama Buddha become immeshed with so much economic and cultural nonsense.
I appreciate the insight. I know for a fact that Goenka's vipassana training have no such oversights, so I may just do one of those. The principle element I was considering Suan Mokh for was their morning yoga, because physical stretching and activity is pretty much banned in Goenka's retreats.
Any thoughts on the yoga, James?
Written January 11, 2018
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