This was tough. Epic or Mandarin, Mandarin or Epic. We debated, we discussed, we had cocktails over. We chose Epic for the service, amenities (concierge level) and Kimpton in Touch. While familiar with both hotels, we found this to be the better value. The hotel was (for us) flawless. I hate to name names because i will undoubtely miss some but so many were great to us. The entire concierge level staff is dynamite. Raquel, JP, Chantel, the entire crew....Many thanks for making our 25th anniversary stay special.