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407 Dainichicho, Nakagyo-ku, Kyoto 604-8044, Japan
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A very traditional ryokan indeed!

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4 of 5 stars
JChua 221 contributions
Singapore
May 18, 2008 | Trip type: Couples
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After researching some websites and tripadvisor.com, I had specifically chosen this 110 year old (business started 7 generations ago in 1801 but the present location was from 1898) ryokan to be our very first traditional ryokan stay in Japan.

In order to ease my husband's transition from a modern world to a traditional ryokan world, I had booked a Japanese room in the Westin Miyako for one night before hand so that he would not experience too much of a culture shock (do read my other review) staying at the Kinmata Ryokan.

The renowned luxury ryokan, Kinmata, was indeed a very very traditional ryokan. As one guidebook had pointed out, most traditional ryokans do not have modern amenities and their owners' main priority is not so much as to provide modern comfort to their guests but rather to upkeep the original structure and traditional atmosphere of their treasured ryokan.

That said, the Kinmata is one such ryokan, a true blue ryokan in every sense of the word! I had offered Ukai san, the owner cum higly acclaimed chef 50,000 yen per person since their website had listed prices from 40,000-60,000 yen per person, I thought it would be safer to choose the middle category. Therefore, including 5% tax, the total bill for 2 persons came up to a whopping 105,000 yen!

All email correspondences with Ukai san was speedily answered and he had offered us a 12 tatami mat suite on the second floor with a 8 course Kaiseki dinner for 50,000 yen per person. But in the end, we found ourselves to be in their largest suite, room number 1, with a size of about 16-18 tatami mats! The suite is on the second floor of the main entrance (located on a quiet street), with 4 different areas - a dinning area, a sleeping area, a luggage area and a veranda area facing the tsuboniwa (an internal calming small garden/courtyard).

However, dinner wise, we were served only 6 courses, a little disappointed at first but we reckoned that its because we were given an extra large sized suite that can easily accommodate 4 or even 6 persons. Quality and presentation of the Kaiseki dinner was simply superb, taste wise, very good too, especially the fish head dish .... it was quite heavenly!

Now, to the negative points as to why I didn't give it a full 5 stars -1. the futon beds were quite hard and thin, making sleeping on it uncomfortable. And the pillows were about 30cm long (12 inches), made up of green beans, I believe .... very traditional Japanese but how to sleep on such a pillow??? In the end, I had to take a sleeping pill to aid my beauty sleep.
2. fortunately, there was a private toilet attached (as requested) in the large suite, but its size was, well, only meant for one person at any one time. Almost like an aircraft toilet ...
3. there was no TV, mini fridge nor a safe in the suite.
4. frankly, for the money paid for the Kyo Kaiseki dinner, you probably can have gourmet foods like foie gras, premium meats, truffles in a Michelin starred restaurant in France or Italy. But nothing like this for the Kaiseki dinner, I thought for the price, they should at least feature small amounts of Matsutake mushrooms and Kobe beef, for instance.

All in all, we had a great stay at this award winning ryokan (featured in numerous books, magazines, websites, guide books etc). Ukai san was every bit the hardworking and hospitable ryokan owner - greeting you good night at the end of the day and saying Good morning first thing in the morning, calling for a taxi for us on our departure ... He had even stored our luggage before and after our stay (3pm check in and 10am check out time was quite strictly enforced here).

For these three key points - wonderfully located just steps from Nishiki Ichiba (food market) and the Shijo shopping area, offers a true blue traditional ryokan experience and the ever pleasing Ukai san and staff - are enough reasons to stay here.

  • Liked — Great location, hospitablel owner and staff, superb ryokan atmosphere.
  • Disliked — Uncomfortable futons, pillows. No TV, safe and mini bar.
  • My ratings for this hotel
    • 3 of 5 stars Value
    • 4 of 5 stars Rooms
    • 5 of 5 stars Location
    • 4 of 5 stars Cleanliness
    • 4 of 5 stars Check in / front desk
    • 4 of 5 stars Service
  • Date of stay May 2008
  • Visit was for Romantic getaway
  • Traveled with Spouse / significant other
  • Age group 35-49
  • Member since December 31, 2005
  • Would you recommend this hotel to a friend? Yes
  • I recommend this hotel for Young singles, An amazing honeymoon, A romantic getaway, Girlfriend getaway, People with disabilities, Older travelers, Families with teenagers, Tourists
  • I do not recommend this hotel for Pet owners, Families with young children
  • I selected this hotel as a top choice for Museums / Cultural / Historical sites, Shopping
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Kinmata - Wonderful Experience!!!

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5 of 5 stars
ayz75 45 contributions
Toronto
Apr 21, 2008 | Trip type: Couples

Stayed here in Nov 2007 with my husband and brother in law.

We were on a mini-honeymoon and decided to splurge in Kyoto, and it was worth the money for sure.

The owner and staff were attentive and friendly, in fact, I had expected one room for all three of us, but when he saw us he offered us two rooms to give us more privacy! there was no extra cost.

The bath and shower was not an issue, the staffs would always make sure there was no one at the bath before you go down to take the bath. We also had a toilette in our room so that was very convenient.

Dinner and breakfast was superb. I was very impressed with the quality of the food.

Overall, it was a wonderful experience and if I had the budget next time, I'd definitely come back and stay here!

  • Liked — Food, the Japanese style room, service
  • Disliked — Nothing
  • My ratings for this hotel
    • 4 of 5 stars Value
    • 5 of 5 stars Rooms
    • 5 of 5 stars Location
    • 5 of 5 stars Cleanliness
    • 4 of 5 stars Check in / front desk
    • 5 of 5 stars Service
  • Date of stay November 2007
  • Visit was for Quality time with family
  • Traveled with Spouse / significant other
  • Age group 25-34
  • Member since August 05, 2005
  • Would you recommend this hotel to a friend? Yes
  • I recommend this hotel for An amazing honeymoon, A romantic getaway, Girlfriend getaway, Older travelers, Tourists
  • I do not recommend this hotel for People with disabilities, Great pool scene
  • I selected this hotel as a top choice for Museums / Cultural / Historical sites
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Good experience

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4 of 5 stars
GaylePDublin 95 contributions
Dublin, Ireland
Jan 11, 2008 | Trip type: Couples

Stayed here with my husband for one night, our last in Kyoto, as part of a three month trip around the world. It was a very expensive treat as we were on a budget, but we felt if we were going to experience a ryokan then we should do so in style.

The weeks leading up to our stay there had been quite hectic so we were looking forward to totally relaxing. With this in mind we arrived quite early, just after check in, hoping we could spend time in the infamous bath and chill out in our room. We seemed to take the staff by surprise, arriving so early, but nevertheless were escorted to our room, which was much larger than I expected (basically two rooms which could be separated by a sliding partition and we also had an en suite, contrary to other reviews). The room was beautifully decorated. It only had traditional style low straight back chairs and a low table, and the beds had not yet been laid out, so it was not really conducive to "chilling out" as we had planned but we did partake of the bath before dinner. It was indoor (somehow we had in our heads it was outdoor) and in a very small area so we were a little disappointed.

Dinner was served promptly at 7. We chose the most expensive option and had given the kitchen a bit of a challenge as I do not eat meat and, even more difficult for the Japanese, my husband does not eat fish. Despite this, a fabulous meal, 10 courses of fish and vegetable dishes for me, and 7 for my husband, was produced. The service and presentation was astounding and the tastes, mostly totally new experiences for both of us, were excellent. However, both of us found there to be far too much food and we felt bad as we could not do justice to all of the dishes which had obviously been so lovingly prepared, Unless you have a massive appetite I would go with one of the less expensive meals if they involve less food!!

While we were finishing dinner our beds were prepared and with so much food inside us we just about managed to crawl into them for an early night. It was extremely comfortable sleeping on the floor and despite the ryokan being rather open, there was little noise.

We opted for the traditional Japanese breakfast and in hindsight we should have gone with the continental, as it was a little much after the meal the night before to face into more tofu, raw fish and rice so soon, but if you really want the proper experience go for it!!

All in all, we enjoyed our experience, and the staff were extremely friendly and professional, but I would be unsure as to whether the expense was worth it. If you are visiting Japan I believe a night in a ryokan is a must. However, you can probably get the experience without having to spend so much.

  • My ratings for this hotel
    • 4 of 5 stars Value
    • 5 of 5 stars Rooms
    • 4 of 5 stars Location
    • 5 of 5 stars Cleanliness
    • 3 of 5 stars Check in / front desk
    • 5 of 5 stars Service
  • Date of stay November 2007
  • Visit was for Quality time with family
  • Traveled with Spouse / significant other
  • Age group 25-34
  • Member since January 25, 2006
  • Would you recommend this hotel to a friend? Yes
  • I recommend this hotel for An amazing honeymoon, A romantic getaway, Girlfriend getaway, Older travelers, Tourists
  • I do not recommend this hotel for Young singles, People with disabilities, Great pool scene, Pet owners, Families with young children, Families with teenagers
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A truly magical experience

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5 of 5 stars
noisui 80 contributions
Belfast, United Kingdom
Dec 11, 2007 | Trip type: Couples
1/1 found this review helpful

We stayed at Kinmata on the last night of our week long stay in Kyoto, which also happened to be our first ever visit to Japan. Our stay at the ryokan was one of, if not the, highlight of the trip.

Booking was done easily in advance direct by email with the ryokan and we agreed the cost of the stay, this is based upon the quality of evening meal that you opt for.

The ryokan is easily found, we actually walked from our previous hotel - the Gimmond in about 10 minutes through the covered arcades, Kinmata is literally within a stones throw of Nshiki market.

I do not wish to tell you about how magical the ryokan is, as I do not want to spoil it for anyone else who is lucky enough to stay. Let me just suggest that you take advantage of the amazing japanese cedar bath before your meal, then dress yourself in one of the provided Yakuta. Then sit back at your dinner table in your tatami matted room and be amazed at the grace of the traditionally dressed girls as they serve one of the most amazing and admittedly at times challenging meals that I have ever had the chance to enjoy.

Expensive? Yes.

Worth it? Everey single penny and more

  • My ratings for this hotel
    • 5 of 5 stars Value
    • 5 of 5 stars Rooms
    • 5 of 5 stars Location
    • 5 of 5 stars Cleanliness
    • 5 of 5 stars Check in / front desk
    • 5 of 5 stars Service
  • Date of stay December 2007
  • Visit was for Personal event (wedding, ...)
  • Traveled with Spouse / significant other
  • Age group 35-49
  • Member since October 16, 2005
  • Would you recommend this hotel to a friend? Yes
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Excellent food but the guestrooms are not on par with the food

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3 of 5 stars
baburshah 67 contributions
paris
Oct 26, 2007

The food, kaiseki-style, is superb, both in the morning and in the evening, served, one dish after another, in your accomodation. But, talking about accomodation, this is a mix of Western and Japanese furniture, without any zen-like harmony and no view of the -small- garden. The owner could show a little bit more interest in his guest and their presence. Maybe he was just reserved like some Japanese. A pleasant stay even if I would not return.

  • My ratings for this hotel
    • 3 of 5 stars Value
    • 3 of 5 stars Rooms
    • 3 of 5 stars Location
    • 4 of 5 stars Cleanliness
    • 3 of 5 stars Check in / front desk
    • 3 of 5 stars Service
  • Date of stay November 2006
  • Member since October 25, 2007
  • Would you recommend this hotel to a friend? No
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407 Dainichicho, Nakagyo-ku, Kyoto 604-8044, Japan