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Well now I really don't know what you're saying. And I'm not keen on the personal comments - especially not from someone who remains anonymous and hasn't said very much on their profile. But I do respect your views – most of the time. Otherwise I'd ignore them.

But suddenly you're talking about these two young girls, in a horrific incident you haven't mentioned before, but without saying what transipired, or which forest it happened in. And you still go to the Ngong Road forest yourself to exercise your horses? Or, according to your last line, you don't… Which?

From the readers' point of view, there's always going to be a kind of consensus, whether we like it or not. It's just the averaged out impression that all our posts give, filtered through readers' individual personalities and viewpoints.

I don't doubt for a second that Nairobi can be a dangerous, unpredictable place where the rule of law has almost no meaning. I received several shocking readers' letters telling me jaw-dropping accounts of being mugged in the early 80s (it's been years since I've had anything like that and I put that down to traveller savviness). The city is permanently evolving, too, which makes it hard for anyone to keep tabs on every corner of it - even a local, but especially, as you say, someone based in the UK like me. But based on my own visits to the forests, and what you've told me so far, I'll be saying about these two forests: "seek advice before visiting, go in company, and if possible take an askari from the gate (at Oloolua) or the office (at Ngong Road Forest)" I think your advice (based on my Nairobi contacts and the local with whom I visited NRF who hadn't been for a while, and is very savvy, and had no views on security there), would be towards the extreme end of cautious. Which makes me wonder why you still live in Nairobi?!

And the Lavington Green carjacking? She was in the car park, behind the gates, when this happened? And they were assumed to be her staff as she drove them out of the shopping centre? Well that's a new one on naive old me… All the major shopping centres in Nairobi have significant security. So you think this could happen anywhere at all? Village Market? Sarit Centre? Why then do you think a mugging couldn't happen in the Karura Forest? Or literally anywhere?

Richard

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