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Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

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Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

Larry Ellison (owner of 95+% of Lanai) was interviewed on CNBC yesterday. Most of the conversation pertained to Oracle Corp., but if you scroll down about 75% of the linked page, you will find a brief (however, more info than I've been able to locate in recent months) outline of his plans for the Island: including total solar for electricity, electric cars,desalinization of much of the water supply, comprehensive organic farming featuring drip irrigation with a goal of exporting produce and support of residents desiring to start businesses.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49264980

There are numerous video clips of the interview; including this one that includes aerial shots of the Island, but it stops just short of including his comments on Lana'i...perhaps later today.

video.cnbc.com/gallery/…

P.S. In searching for back-up to the preceeding links, I stumbled across this summary: http://www.cnbc.com/id/49265334

Edited: 9:48 am, October 03, 2012
Lanai, Hawaii
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11. Re: Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

As someone who lives on Lānaʻi, I can say that many of us are glad to see Mr. Murdock’s influence on the island decreasing. The feds have taken over the Programmatic E.I.S. for the entirety of the state’s energy policy due to improprieties in the state’s initial efforts.

It’s quite true, folks on Lānaʻi are mostly optimistic about Ellison. As far as the rights to the wind farm go, there are now more questions than answers. Nearly the entirety of the sales agreement of the island which included several public utilities was redacted, keeping the public from seeing the details. What does “rights to develop the wind farm” really mean? Is it simply a right of first refusal to the land? The amount of acreage was reduced from 22,000 acres to 7,000 acres, so either the project must be scaled down, or more land is available for him to lease. At this time, the 200mw, 170 turbine industrial wind power plant which would cover over ¼ of Lānaʻi is still officially the only plan on the table.

According to the Hawaii Tourism Authority, visitors spent $87.2 million last year on Lānaʻi. Visitors are the lifeblood of our economy and the draw of our island is its unspoiled natural beauty. We all want the islands to be self-sufficient and we are hopeful that Mr. Ellison’s approach will be more thoughtful and preserve what’s most precious about Lānaʻi for everyone to experience.

Hana, Hawaii
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12. Re: Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

Very cautious but encouraging news. Now if that Mr. M ever starts building a big wind farm there, I might just throw a pineapple (if I can find one on Lana'i) into one his jet engines...and turn it into a glider. (wink)

Edited: 6:29 pm, October 05, 2012
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13. Re: Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

Sw; I was a bit confused at a little after the 2:00 mark on the NBC video (post #5)/next to last paragraph of the text that follows: "won't pursue a controversial wind farm". If it's not true that development of the wind farm is Murdock's decision, and not Ellison's, then there must be more to the story...perhaps the Feds assumption of the environmental impact study goes a long way toward better understanding of the issue; Mahalo TigerShark for your input.

With reference to visitor spending of $87 million, I recall seeing estimates in the range of $15-25 million (?) that Murdock was losing; generating anything exceeding break-even, in the forseeable future, would seem to present quite a challenge...but then our friend Larry can probably use the write-off.

Sure wish little Moloka'i could find a Sugar Daddy; perhaps a wealthy pink speedo wearing Texan!

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14. Re: Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

Sure Caddy, we have pineapple growing on Lana'i. You can find them in front of the cultural center. Only look, no touch. ;-)

Honolulu, Hawaii
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15. Re: Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

Didn't see it mentioned as I quickly glanced at the articles....

But recent "word on the street" over here is,

He bought Lanai primarily to use as a base for designing, testing and training his America's Cup yacht and team and plans to build an extensive, costly facility to house his boat and crew at the harbor far away from the prying eyes of other locations.

He pulled the remaining vacant lots of an oceanfront subdivision in Manele Resort off the market and plans to build a $200-plus million estate.

Hawaii
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16. Re: Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

I found out the hard way today that Ellison's plans for Lanai include raising the room rates at the Lodge. The well-advertised Kamaaina (state resident) price of $199 a night is no longer available. Thanks a lot Larry. Guess I won't be staying at the Lodge anymore. And I bet someone at Four Seasons is wondering why the rooms don't fill up.

London
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17. Re: Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

One very easy improvement he could make instantly would be to get rid of the cr*p musak pumped into the otherwise extremely nice main restaurant at the Manele Bay resort.

Apparently the poor staff there can do nothing about it (I asked several, including the manager!), as there was some kind of contract with a third party and staff have no control over it at all. They can't turn it off or change it at all, and it's on some kind of endless loop). It was absolutely appalling and inappropriate (sounded like New York jazz - who the hell wants that on a beautiful Hawaiian retreat??). Totally ruined the atmosphere.

Whoever signed the contract for it was and idiot, and had no idea of how to create the right ambience at a luxury island Hawaian beach resort.

Sorry to be harsh, but it's impossible to ignore bad, intrusive musak when you are dining.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the decor at Manale, as the current Chinese style is a little strange, to say the least. Not unpleasant, but just a bit odd.

It is such a fantastically spectacularly situated hotel, that it deserves equally fantastic decor.

One useful addition to the resort would be to put in another pool - the current one is a little too small for the scale of the resort. Another pool, say on the flat ground to the left and slightly below would be idea. A second pool would be good if it were for children, leaving the main central pool, near the spa and restaurant and very elegantly designed for the grownups. A new children's pool could have slides and stuff - more fun for them!

A little transfer buggy up and down to the beach would be nice too! It's a longer trek back up than you think on a hot day!!!!

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18. Re: Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

Appreciate your concerns malandinara and Marion055. Don't know if it will help, but a coping mechanism that works for me (most of the time), when confronted with adversity, is to imagine ways that things could be worse.

Consider this alternative: Suppose, rather than Larry Ellison, the buyer had been Donald Trump...humm, (for starters) wonder what payoffs would be required for "Casino Lana'i"?

Amber, sorry for delay; lost track of this thread. See link for update on Yacht training facility:

sfgate.com/sports/article/Oracle-sailing-tea…

London
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19. Re: Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

Ha ha - I think DT is trying that on for a nice bit of Scotland...

I wonder if LE will clear some of the island for a landing strip for his Mig! (If he's still got it....)

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20. Re: Larry Ellison's plans for Lana'i

If you are here locally, KHON2 News will be talking about this subject on Thursday's news broadcast (Oct. 25th). Not sure what time, but think it will be the evening news. Brianne Randle will be reporting. If you miss it, you may be able to watch the replay from their web site.