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United Airbus A319 - UA vs. SeatGuru

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United Airbus A319 - UA vs. SeatGuru

I'm looking at booking a flight using miles from Vancouver to San Francisco on United Flight 887, which is shown as an Airbus319. The United site says there is business class available, but SeatGuru says there are eight 1st Class seats, no business class. Which one should I believe?

Phoenix, AZ
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1. Re: United Airbus A319 - UA vs. SeatGuru

This is just a guess on my part, though we fly UA A-319's and A-320's often.

Those planes are configured as two cabin-class (well, sort of three cabin-class, if one insists on counting E+ as a class). On domestic flights (USA), United often uses the term Business Class in the fare, where others would call it First Class. On UA two cabin-class planes, the domestic Fist Class is really akin to E++. It is not equal to TALT or TPAC Global First Class, and does not compare to UA's Business First Class.

When issued, though listed on the Web site as Business Class, the ticket will say First Class, but that is domestic FC, and not Global First Class.

It boils down to semantics, but UA will only really have two classes, with the E+ variant in the front of rear portion of the cabin.

The 8 seats in the forward part of the cabin (little curtain) is correct for the A-319. They are two rows of 2 - 2, are have A & B, then E & F. We normally fly Row 2, E & F, so no bulkhead, but recline is restricted a bit. Just flew this configuration on three separate legs last week, with Business Class tickets (from Web site), but all boarding passes showed "First Class."

Good luck,

Hunt

Edited: 7:10 pm, July 14, 2014
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2. Re: United Airbus A319 - UA vs. SeatGuru

Domestic flights call business class "first class".

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3. Re: United Airbus A319 - UA vs. SeatGuru

What Geo says. They're the same.

The A319/320 is configured with domestic First. But for short haul international - including transborder - they use the same aircraft, and call the domestic first cabin "United Business".

Phoenix, AZ
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4. Re: United Airbus A319 - UA vs. SeatGuru

Yes, as mentioned - semantics regarding the label applied to the same seats.

Hunt

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5. Re: United Airbus A319 - UA vs. SeatGuru

United First, United Business, United BusinessFirst, United Global First. Got that?

The marketing guy that came up with that lot (likely from Continental and so desperate to keep "BusinessFirst") needs to be given a stern speaking to!!

And United , or one of the US carriers needs to take the lead and rebrand domestic first as business class, to bring the US in line with the rest of the world. If anyone's up to it, my bet is on Delta.

Edited: 12:22 am, July 15, 2014
6. Re: United Airbus A319 - UA vs. SeatGuru

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