Any outer piece of clothing is a "coat". Yes, you can have it in your carryon and you do not have to remove it from there. You don't have to take shoes OUT of your carryon either as they will x ray the bag.

Just went through security 8 times last week and we had shoes in our carry on (we didnt' take checked luggage), so had 6 pair of extra shoes and nooone made us take them out (family of 5, that's why we had so many extra).

Was also in LA and we had 4 extra pairs in carry on and weren't made to take them off at th3 4 times we went through.

They didn't make me take off my zip up hoodie, but made my husband take off his non zip up hoodie, so it may just be luck of the draw. But I certainly wouldn't worry about the shoes, no need to remove them.

Thanks for responding, guys.

It seems opinions differ because it comes down to the luck of the draw on the moment, as maried11 says.

It really is insanely variable - the British seem to be very concerned about your liquids ("take it out of your hand luggage and put it in the bin") but less so about electronics and your shoes. Americans fixate on your shoes. Canadians are all over the place.

I'm also not sure a hoodie classifies as a coat - I only put an actual coat /jacket in the bin....but you never know - so be prepared.

What I do is have everything accessible - I listen, while in the line, to what the Security people are saying and when I get to the actual table I say "what about my iPad/phone/kindle" and take it from there...

Extra shoes should be fine in your bag.

Yes, we were in the USA, Mexico and Canada and our shoes were fine in all places. This time, I didn't have to take my liquids out anywhere (but I had them packed properly and at the top if I did) and it was really easy, but who knows.

Good luck anyway, might as well be prepared for all scenarios: easy slip off shoes, liquids in the proper bags at the top of carry to get out easy, etc. May make your life easier.

At Berlin, they had a TV screen with little cartoon type characters showing you exactly what to keep on and take off and what to put in the bins to be scanned. I was amazed to see how many people still didn't do the right thing. I nearly was one of them I forgot I had a belt on with a big metal buckle.

Some people were asked to take off their shoes and some weren't.

i really think it's part of the security strategy to keep people guessing.

any strict adherance to the guidelines gives too much opportunty to circumnavigate them.

i really have no problem with that.

I'm also not convinced a hoodie is a coat. I don't wear them, but my daughter, now 15 does and she has never been asked to take one off. However if it has a zip in it, I would recommend proactively taking it off, as the metal could set off the detector.

I agree it's simply luck on the day and there is no one practice strictly adhered to,

really think it's part of the security strategy to keep people guessing. <<<<<

Yes agree, one security guy actually told me that every week there is slightly different procedure.