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FYI: AS stops "thru-check" baggage when on SEPERATE tickets

Bangkok
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FYI: AS stops "thru-check" baggage when on SEPERATE tickets

Hi,

As as FYI, Alaska Airlines will, with effect from 15JAN13, no longer "thru" check bags when on SEPARATE reservations; with some minor exceptions.

This is very much line with Delta's earlier announcement on the same subject matter.

You can read the full text of the announcement and the exceptions here:

Alaska Airlines:

alaskaair.com/content/…

This will probably be more germane to West cost USA passengers and those going to/from the Hawai'ian islands on AS as they now have a sizable presence in the Islands.

Travel Safe,

Bingley, United...
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1. Re: FYI: AS stops "thru-check" baggage when on SEPERATE tickets

I'm surprised any airline allows it - even if the same airline is involved in both flights.

Poulton Le Fylde...
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2. Re: FYI: AS stops "thru-check" baggage when on SEPERATE tickets

Why?

Bingley, United...
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3. Re: FYI: AS stops "thru-check" baggage when on SEPERATE tickets

You reach your final destination, your luggage doesn't. You complain to the second airline who is the one who gets it in the neck for the missing luggage even if it was the fault of the first airline.

And on a financial side - people booking separate tikets are doing so to save money, therefore it's a loss of income to the airline.

Bangkok
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4. Re: FYI: AS stops "thru-check" baggage when on SEPERATE tickets

Hi,

There is (as I see it) three somewhat interlinked issues in play..

In no specific order..

1) Liability..

When you thru-check bags off a SEPARATE ticketing booking the second carrier is incorrectly being burdened with the contractual and/or Convention liability to address any claims issues IF there's a loss or damage..

The process is that the carrier who transports you to the last point on THAT TICKET bears the liability to do this.. and as a part of a carriers interline agreements, there's a process the carriers agree to to share or address this liability issue..

So, if carrier A wrongly thru checks a bag onto carrier B, then carrier B is wrongly being burdened by that liability as the ticketing status didn't support a thru-check situation.

2) Costs and Revenues..

Interlining bags does have a cost.. at airports where the carriers don't have a hub or large presence, they commonly contract with a 3rd party or the airport operator itself, to move bags from their gate areas, to the baggage areas of carrier B.. and that costs money as it's usually billed on a per bag basis or on a percentage of all bags moved basis..

and when bags are improperly tagged, this deprives carrier B of their share of bag fees (this is something that most interline agreements speak to) and saddles both carriers with interline handling costs where no passenger premium has been collected.

The other costs, is related to #1.. If there's a loss or damage claim, most interline agreements have a formula or the like that addressed how these costs are shared among the carriers involved.. So this means that in #1, if a claim does come up, carrier B would be unfairly and improperly paying a claim that they are not really supposed to be paying.

3) Passenger issue.. This one kind of mirrors #1.. If you were to have a lost or damaged bag matter, the industry standard is that the final carrier takes and manages the claim process.. However, the second or final carrier could legitimately deny the claim and send it back to the originating carrier as the originating carrier miss-tagged the bag against interline agreements..

A parallel example here is when carrier A "pushes" a ticket to carrier B, to transport a passenger due to a cancellation, overbook or otherwise, but carrier A doesn't read or comply with what is carrier A's and B's ticketing interline agreement that may limit such activity to only accepting like-for-like fares or the like..

These kinds of things create a very unpleasant "finger pointing" scenario and the passenger gets stuck in the middle.

Travel Safe,

Edited: 5:37 am, December 04, 2012
Geneva, Switzerland
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5. Re: FYI: AS stops "thru-check" baggage when on SEPERATE tickets

Thanks, Gopbi. The exception is however worth to mention:

"Exception: Alaska Airlines will check bags, without additional fees, to another Alaska Airlines operated flight on a separate ticket, provided the applicable maximum layover time is not exceeded."

The reason might also be inked to the fact US airlines are now charging luggage fees, something we do not face in Europe with "regular" airlines.

Bangkok
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6. Re: FYI: AS stops "thru-check" baggage when on SEPERATE tickets

Hi,

Yes, the exception is worth noting, and is something I did address in the original post and as it's listed in detail on the link provided.

Travel Safe,

7. Re: FYI: AS stops "thru-check" baggage when on SEPERATE tickets

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