I prefer his Mom's place in Grand Haven for the subtle difference in taste, and the huge difference in grease. Ted has refined the "family recipe" to accommodate the middle-of-the-road taste buds. The service is pure Fricano's. Attentive, precise. Great view of Muskegon Lake. It's a must have every 90-days or so. Anymore than that and your asking for angioplasty.